Fire Emblem: Why Three Houses Works, While Engage Struggles

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  @paladinslash4721 · 2 years ago

  There’s a lot of people who say only gameplay matters and Engage is the game that put that theory to the test.

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  @tmnt754 · 2 years ago

  Fun Fact: During lumeras first death scene my switch actually started going into sleep mode with the screen going dark that's how long that cutscene goes on it actually made me laugh a little at that death scene.

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  @ItsBofu · 1 year ago

  One of the things I love about Three Houses' supports is that they actually changed based on what point in the story they're unlocked at, or even something like one of the characters' supports with another character. For instance, in Ferdinand and Constance's B support, if the two of them aren't part of Edelgard's forces or if Ferdinand hasn't yet improved his relationship with Edelgard, he'll lament the fact that his family has fallen from grace. If, however, they're on Edelgard's side and Ferdinand has a good support rank with Edelgard, he'll instead mention that while his standing with Edelgard has improved, he's still unsure of his own worth. It's a subtle difference, but it lends a sense of continuity to it that the Engage supports just don't have.

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  @TheAurgelmir · 2 years ago

  Byleth&apos;s lack of emotions is also linked to Sothis. <br>Because in the opening dream Sothis is beginning to awake. Yes, Byleth had the dream before, but now it seems like it&apos;s different.<br>Even in the Supports we see that later supports show Byleth being a bit more &quot;human,&quot; smiling making jokes etc.

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  @Moltz22 · 2 years ago

  Engage finished development midway through 2021 according to various game classification boards, so even if the developers had been interested in adding 3 Hopes&apos; Shez as an emblem, the timeline shows that simply would not have been possible.<br><br>Also, the most canon Byleth&apos;s Emblem has in Engage is that they&apos;re from White Clouds/Part 1. He&apos;s not meant to represent any route in particular, which is why his special interaction with Nemesis in Ch 26 of Engage alludes that while Byleth knows who Nemesis IS, he also has not met him beforehand. This special treatment Byleth gets is due to the devs deciding that Three Houses&apos; canon route is... up to each player to decide (which incidentally played a role in much of the discourse involving its plot and characters).

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  @MetalGearRaxis · 2 years ago

  Yunaka&apos;s voice actress IS that good. Laura Post is extremely talented.

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  @SonicTheHedgedawg · 2 years ago (edited)

  I would argue the character creation in Baldur&apos;s Gate actually <b>is</b> incorporated into the story: an illithid puts a tadpole into your brain, then the tadpole demands “Who Are You” and <b>that&apos;s</b> when you start creating your character; the tadpole is searching your psyche to figure out who exactly you are, and you&apos;re revealing it to them via character creation. It&apos;s very diegetic

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  @Enderlinkpawnu · 2 years ago

  I think a lot of people were put off by how the protagonist of Engage looked when they were first revealed, particularly the hair. Like yeah, I understand there is a lore reason behind why they look like that. But even though Fire Emblem takes a lot of pages from anime design wise, it was never really <b>this</b> crazy. Like yeah, Hilda for example has pink hair, but that was basically as far as it went. I feel a lot of people thought the stark half and half colgate hair idea was a little too far the &quot;silly and stupid looking&quot; track, and thus didn&apos;t even give Engage a chance.

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  @ErayoTwilight · 2 years ago (edited)

  Fire Emblem games have a bad habit of bringing new and beloved mechanics forward from previous games without really understanding what made those mechanics work in context. &nbsp;<br><br>Probably the most egregious example of this was the &quot;offspring&quot; mechanic - in Awakening, when two characters got strong enough support levels, sometimes their children from a post apocalyptic future version of the world came back in time to try and prevent that apocalypse - while this sounds a little silly on the surface, it was well integrated into the story and made your choices for who you built supports between feel like it carried a lot more weight. &nbsp;The next game in the franchise, Fates, decided to have a similar system, but instead of integrating the existence of these children into the overarching storyline, they were children that were essentially born during the events of the story and then raised in the &quot;hyperbolic time chamber&quot; pocket dimension that is your hub world; &nbsp;they&apos;re all suffering some deep-seated abandonment issues because your party members were spending months or years away from them in the real world for every battle they engaged in in the story. &nbsp;It just felt completely unnecessary and detached from the story and only there because it had been in the previous game.<br><br><br>Engage I feel suffers a lot of the same issues, where the various hub activities and relationship building mechanics that made sense in the context of the Three Houses story just end up feeling tacked on when removed from the framework of Three Houses.

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  @IchHassePasswoerter · 2 years ago

  Three Houses also had the benefit that instead of the game simply telling you that you commanded an army, it <b>gave</b> you an army to command. The battalion system made you the commander of an army often exceeding 1&apos;000 soldiers (8 students plus one teacher, each equipped with the largest battalions makes 9 x 120 = 1&apos;080). Engage tells you that you lead an army, but all you have is an armed friend group.

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  @6CornDawg9 · 2 years ago

  Someone said all the characters look like VTubers and now i cant unsee it

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  @AzureRoxe · 2 years ago

  One funny thing about Alear&apos;s &quot;mom&quot; dying......is that they did the exact same thing in Fates and people disliked it there too.<br><br>So they learned nothing.

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