This Is Why We Skipped Business Class to Europe. Was It a Mistake?
86K views · Sep 18, 2026 · Travel & Events
Comments · 64
@patrickkfoy · 12 days ago (edited)
My wife and I have flown to Europe from our base in SFO several times and love KLM. Their service and food are amazing, and the Premium Economy product is the best we have experienced. It’s better than most domestic first class flights in the US. Delta premium select is much more pricey and less of a value for us from here.<br><br>I’m a DL Diamond Medallion customer. Since we are not in a Delta hub, KLM and AF are great options to get to mainland Europe (AMS or CDG) as if we were in a DL hub city, and then ultimately to our final destination.
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@tgunter101 · 10 days ago
Anyone who focuses on anything other than seat comfort is kidding themselves. Do people seriously care about a toothbrush, eye mask and cafeteria quality food? Just give me enough recline so that I can actually sleep without the head bob and enough leg room to completely straighten out my legs. Anything else is just marketing bs.
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@WrldExplorer · 12 days ago
We have a trip to Europe next month. We are flying into Paris Air France 🇫🇷 Premium Economy which I find great, but our return flight from Madrid is KLM Buisness Class which after looking at the seats, I have to say, it’s very dated. Both flight were 120,000pts each way for 2 people from Colombia 🇨🇴. I prefer the lay flat seats after our 3 week trip. We’re gonna be done.
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@evp-nyc · 10 days ago
We fly to the EU often. Flying for over 4 hrs will always suck, unless you’re rich. We’re also old. We fly non stop economy and just endure it. Save the additional $4/5,000 which pays for 10 days of hotels and meals.
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@jimmyjames6492 · 12 days ago
PE is the sweet spot for international flights IMO. Thanks for the info + video!
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@VisitorsWelcome · 16 minutes ago
Suggestion: Since this was a comparison, I was hoping to see a table of metrics like pitch and recline. Reading off the numbers separately for each flight didn’t make it east to compare.
@jeremypearson6852 · 11 days ago
I’ve flown PE on Virgin between Miami and LHR for about twenty five years and never had a poor experience. The staff have always been friendly, seats comfortable and the meal choice decent. At 64, I don’t want to be cramped in economy for a nine hour flight. I also got spoiled working for airlines many years ago, sitting up front for very little money. I would recommend it if you can stretch your wallet. A Brit in Florida.
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@MichaelBoelton · 10 days ago
delta today is charging for premium select what they used to charge just 4-5 years ago for delta one. they've lost their mind with these stratospheric prices. a business class seat should never cost 10-12x of what an economy seat costs.
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@semsemeini7905 · 11 days ago
On a day flight no need. But a night flight it's great.
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@tanikawilson3580 · 4 days ago
Thank you, this confirmed my decision to fly KLM premium to Amsterdam. This price was lower than Delta with the perks of still getting delta miles and mqds
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@johnflack4241 · 9 days ago
Flew BA business class to London and back in August. For the overnight trip to the UK, the seat was wonderful, and both ways, the lounge was a nice perk and meals were great. For the trip back, I probably would have been just as happy with premium economy for almost half the price. And the price was HIGH. More than the price of the 14 night cruise I took from the UK.
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@MaldonadoJax · 12 days ago
Premium Economy is usually how I like to travel since booking for minimum 4 people, therefore price/miles redemption hits the sweet spot!
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