The Marvelization of Cinema
3M views · Nov 7, 2023 · Film & Animation
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@lluisperegrino7832 · 2 years ago
"It's like the weekly adventure has become the daily homework" is honestly a brilliant summation of the exhaustion everyone seems to be feeling.
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@zeeby24 · 2 years ago
Part of marvelization is that it treats the audience of adult media like children, and the audience of children’s media like babies. It assumes that audiences need everything explained to them and they need a fast pace to keep their attention. That’s why older movies feel so refreshing to me, bc they actually give you time and space to breathe and opportunities to wonder and put the pieces together by yourself
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@_depereo · 2 years ago
Living in NZ when the lotr trilogy was being filmed, it's hard to express how much the entire country got behind the production. Not just government support, but cottage industry, legions of extras travelling from small towns each of whom was dedicated to the source material, backcountry farms picking the best horses, tiny backyard forges, dedicated jewelers examining sketches from various Tolkien works, local helicopter pilots showing the best spots and working long hours. The work showed the passion of the production team but also the supporting passion of millions.
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@SurvivingComics · 2 years ago
What I don't understand is, why does EVERY marvel character need to make jokes? In the actual comics, Hulk isn't walking around cracking stupid jokes and honestly, neither is Cap. In the movies, all of the characters become homogenized. No personality. Sure, they've got different outfits and powers but their personalites are all the same.
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@KaregoAt · 2 years ago (edited)
Irony poisoning is such a good term. LOTR is a good example of genuine, earnest emotion without the need to wink at the audience obnoxiously while feeling those emotions.
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@victoriacara3846 · 2 years ago
When Martin Scorsese said that Marvel wasn't cinema and they're "closer to theme parks than they are to movies", he got a lot of backlash. Now, everyone is realizing he was right the whole time.
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@PyroBlaster · 2 years ago
One point that was in this video that has been something I've been saying for years now: We need stories that END. Not stories that are cancelled. Not stories that exhaust themselves into oblivion. Not stories that change their essence so much in the name of continuation that they don't resemble their origins anymore.<br><br>I feel a lot of ourselves as an audience are to blame for this. We get so attached to stories that we don't ever want it to end. I sometimes feel like every single person I talk to about this kind of thing simply don't want to see their beloved stories end, and I cannot understand why, if the alternative to it actually ending is always one of gradual disinterest or actual degeneration of what it was before.<br><br>To me, it doesn't matter how great and amazing a story actually is if it doesn't have an intended ending to it. It's like making an absolutely beautiful and delicious cake only to use sewage as the icing, or keep messing with it until it actually starts to spoil and become rotten when you're still starting to make the icing. What we crave as spectators, readers and story-enjoyers in general is COMPLETE stories.<br><br>As much as we would love to have something that can last forever, no such thing can exist in regards to narratives. That is a hard truth to accept but it is definitely a necessary one. I can only hope that either the industry realizes that, or the mass of audiences do so in an effective way that it shows itself in the movie industry investor's paycheck.
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@discman15 · 2 years ago
<b>Frodo survives the cave troll stabbing him</b><br>"Well that just happened"
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@emeraldviqueen · 2 years ago
A lot of creators seem so scared of being sincere. We’ve become jaded.<br>We need more Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. We need more movies willing to embrace the storytelling elements that are “corny” and engaging with them honestly. Corny is only bad when its hollow, you have to mean it and take it seriously for it to work
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@cantstopthefunk22 · 2 years ago
This is why I loved the new Dune so much. No irony, no inappropriate jokes. It took itself and its story seriously. It didn't constantly undermine its own characters and themes. Seeing that movie for the first time gave me a new hope for blockbuster movies, and science fiction especially
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@jayybunz · 2 years ago
The lotr point you made is golden. LOTR feels like a trilogy made to be remembered instead of made to make money. The world building, the storytelling, the characters: everything had so much passion and dedication in it. All the characters feel real, they have real emotions and they have realistic dialogue. Lotr feels like home. I feel like rings of power was made because lotr was successful and had a good fanbase, not because they really wanted to show the world Tolkien made.
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