The 1946 Allegations That Ended a Mormon Patriarch’s Ministry
20K views · Sep 28, 2026 · Education
Comments · 104
@anthonycampbell4534 · 1 day ago (edited)
I know ...but when Ben says in the beginning of the episode when states he is trying to keep all these Smiths straight, I thought genius level pun!
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@Hogslice · 1 day ago
Ben, please do a video about George Albert Smith and how he suffered from severe depression and anxiety to the point that he wanted God to let him die and he went into months of isolation. Is there more to his story?
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@makemakean6509 · 1 day ago
It’s a very minor thing, but it tickles something very pleasant in my brain, this convention in Mormonism of ”the ancestor gets the middle initial, the descendant gets the full name” when you write up the history.<br><br>Thus you have George A. Smith and George Albert Smith; Ezra T. Benson and Ezra Taft Benson; Joseph F. Smith and Joseph Fielding Smith.<br><br>I can only anticipate that one day, we will have prophets or apostles named Harold Bingham Lee and Gordon Bitner Hinckley, simply on account of that whenever Presidents Lee and Hinckley are mentioned, it’s always Harold B. Lee and Gordon B. Hinckley, never Harold Lee or Gordon Hinckley.
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@critkillen252 · 6 hours ago
I was friends with both his daughter Lynn and Hyum Smith of Franklin Institute fame before their passing. I knew both quite well and everything you said is correct, though the facts and whitewashing to protect the image of both their father and the church goes so much deeper. You're the first person I have personally heard publicly speak of this so I much enjoyed it! People should know this stuff.
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@betgrim8093 · 1 day ago
Thank you this was fascinating and something I did not know about. I feel horrible Joseph F. Smith III how he was treated and how he must have felt so torn.
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@GaryLArnell · 2 days ago
Excellent presentation. Thank you!
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@stoicinnerstrategy · 1 day ago
Excellent video, as always. I appreciate the deep dive and clear reasoning, sans apologetics either direction.
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@NebjosaMeier · 1 day ago
I love that Eldred Smith lived to be 107 years old, outliving the men who ridiculed him and sidelined him his entire career as patriarch, and making some wonder if he really was a biblical style patriarch living a miraculously long life. When Thomas Monson visits him on his last birthday, I can see Thomas wondering if the patriarch was going to go quietly into that good night or take back the kingdom. They were going to sideline the heirs anyway, but I love they looked foolish every step of the way doing it.
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@DarkDennis1961 · 4 days ago (edited)
This is my first time hearing this. Also I am very interested in the Patriarch office of the church. I was sad the office vanished
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@jackmagdiel1750 · 3 days ago
Thanks again.
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@alandonly · 15 hours ago
Example of earlier sentiments: <br><br>Joseph Smith said: "When we lie down, we contemplate how we may rise up in the morning, and it is pleasing for friends to lie down together, locked in the arms of love, to sleep, and wake in each other's embrace and renew their conversation." <br><br>This was from a discourse he gave on 16 April 1843, as reported by Willard Richards.
@censusgary · 1 day ago
What this story needs is a few more people named Joseph Smith.
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