Fire Emblem: Three Genders
76K views · Sep 4, 2023 · Gaming
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@Rosencreutzzz · 3 years ago · pinned
Someone on Reddit pointed out an important correction which is that Ingrid was not 5 when Duscur happened.<br>I looked over my notes again, and I have no idea how I got the dates wrong (Other than the general difficulty of accessing info in game and the way the wiki doesn't do a great job organizing dates), but alas. She was closer in age to Glenn than I say in the video, and to my understanding, closer to him personally. I think part of it is that the Tragedy of Duscur felt like a very present but also fairly distant memory that echoed into the present... not something that happened like 3 years prior to the game. But that was just my own impression. Sorry for any misleading caused there, and of course for any weird conclusions drawn through it. I think most of the point about her still stands despite it, but, ya know, the argument has a very clear flaw.
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@JaikerMA · 3 years ago
You should've absolutely titled this video Fire Emblem: Sex
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@Gitshiver · 3 years ago
It is quite odd that so much of the worldbuilding is designed around gender not being a determining factor to your destiny, but then still had gender restricted endgame elements. It's almost like not all of the developers made it to the staff meetings or fully read the design documents.
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@Glass_Ninja · 2 years ago
With regard to the Ingrid section: <br>It actually does make sense for her to specifically have tension between her being a knight and her having the duty to bear her house a Crest baby. <br><br><br>Pregnancy and early child rearing are not physically easy and Ingrid is expected to bear children until she has a Crest baby. She obviously does not want to waste her time in the prime of her ability to be a fighter with dealing with pregnancy and children. She also can't guarantee easily that children she would have would have a Crest early on in her lineage. Therefore she is being pressured on the fronts of being a woman and being a physical fighter in a unique way. She doesn't arbitrarily put down the barrier between "marriage" and "knighthood;" she is analyzing her position as both a woman and fighter and seeing an obvious contradiction. To be the best knight she can be, she should not be taking years off of training and fighting to have and raise children. She should be fighting.<br><br><br>To go even further, to get her chances of having a Crested baby higher, Ingrid would have to marry another Crested character, which puts sociopolitical pressure on her dating/social life. Any potential romantic or marital partners are going to be viewed through the lens of whether or not they maximize the chances of her bearing a Crest baby. This in turn poisons her views on the whole matter in a really unique way I'm glad the game did explore. In my opinion, it would be odd to <b>not</b> have a character who comments on this kind of pressure. <br><br>As to why other women in FE3H don't have that same pressure, we can examine their status and expertise areas. Edelgard doesn't have pressure to have Crested babies because of her plan. Marianne doesn't even want to live, let alone care about passing her cursed Crest onto children. Annette and Mercedes can both raise children and study magic with less pressure on them than being a physical fighter would have. Petra is part of a different class system and doesn't care about Crests like the mainlanders do. Dorothea has similar expectations around marrying into nobility and having children and its often seen as a reflection of why and how she empathizes with Ingrid during her proposal storyline. <br>Bernie was literally abused by her father to try and mold her into a perfect wife, which again places tension between her expectations and desires (or phobias, in this case). Hilda doesn't care about doing hard work in the first place. Lysithea doesn't have the time to worry about marriage. Leonie is a commoner who wants to be a knight and is again a reflection of how Ingrid could function without the nobility's expectations on her. Catherine has taken herself out of the nobility purposefully and doesn't have to care. <br><br>What we see time and time again is that Ingrid is in a unique position of caring about the path put in front of her where others don't have to care. Her storyline is a perfectly rational one given her unique circumstances in this world and her story arc isn't unearned, in my opinion. While it's not common for people in Fodlan to worry about gender/sex and overcoming issues related to it, I think Ingrid's story still functions despite its surface-level oddity.
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@freddiet.rowlet525 · 3 years ago
Talking about the gender-locked classes not making sense, it would be interesting if instead they had crest-locked classes designed to synergise with that character's relic, if they have one. Like Marianne and Anette having a class that encourages use of their relics instead of just using magic, or having reasons for Catherine and Lorenz to keep their relics instead of just giving them both to Lysithea.
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@Sashitoge · 3 years ago
A Fire Emblem themed video from a channel that isn't >70% FE, a rare treat
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@starlitromance · 3 years ago
My only insight on the Ingrid issue, IMO, is that it isn't so much a 'marriage' thing as it is a 'baby factory' thing. 'You need to get married to carry on our crest' is a vastly, vastly different psychological weight than 'you need to have children to carry on our crest', but this is coming from a tokophobia angle that obviously isn't really there in fe3h.
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@WhiteScorpio2 · 3 years ago
Regarding the word "emperor" vs "empress", I don't know what term was used in the game itself, but in history those few historical Japanese monarchs who were women carried the same title as the men - 天皇. There is no specific word for an empress in Japanese (at least for the Japanese emperors).
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@Qu3rtyddx3 · 3 years ago
I laughed so hard at the Marianne “god protect me” LMAO
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@MathMasterism · 2 years ago
I think the fact that crest don’t work perfectly as a metaphor for either gender or class is part of the point. It’s a thing that doesn’t have any parallels to real life other than perhaps genetics, and in some ways I think the dev’s did a good job of considering how literal marks of the divine would be used by the nobility.<br><br>The fact the not having a crest doesn’t strip a family of their titles while a commoner having a crest doesn’t instantly elevate them to the status of nobility, makes a lot of sense when you consider how real life kings justified their rules.<br><br>The divine right of kings was just a way of justifying the current king deserved to be king over someone else, rather than an actually set of rules to determine who leads the country. If a noble overthrew the king of England, he wouldn’t give up the thrown just because he doesn’t have right bloodline to rule, he would come up with a new reason, or convolute the old reason, to justify him now being king.<br><br>In the same way, the crest system is not actually a hard rule the nobility operates on and nothing compels a family with no crest bearing heirs to give up their wealth and titles. Instead is just a way to justify way commoners and nobles are different and why the current families in power deserve to be in power forever.
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@БлейзЛега · 2 years ago
"Hresvelgist-Hannemanism" sent me flying, thank you
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@MathMasterism · 2 years ago
I think it is worth pointing out that “knight” in the world of Three Houses is different from the real world knight. Knights in three houses are soldiers but not land owner. I would say it’s better to think of Ingrid’s goal as like joining a holy order (Templar’s or the Hospitalar). Her family on the other hand wants her focus noble politics (marriage, realm management, growing family wealth and status, etc).<br><br>In this way her conflict with her family could be viewed as being a warrior versus being a noble or fighting for a land versus running a land. There’s also the fact to consider that her family’s plan is to marry up, so regardless of her gender, she would likely be the lesser of the union, potentially giving her less freedom.
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