No, Jesus WASN'T Special. (feat Dr James Tabor) (Jeremiah Johnston response)
194K views · Oct 31, 2023 · Science & Technology
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@Yourghostuncle · 2 years ago
It really bothers me how comfortable apologists are with disagreeing with scholarly consensus knowing their target audience will not fact check them. People trust them and the abuse of that trust is such a violation.
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@FooRocker · 2 years ago
When Paulogia said,"That was 10 years ago." I felt that. To me, the 90s will always feel like they were 10 years ago
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@maddyjean · 2 years ago
no one expected joseph smith to receive revelation on golden plates that he could read inside a hat. therefore true.
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@curiousnerdkitteh · 2 years ago
Paulogia is devoted, using his one time-traveller's message from the dystopian future to fact-check his video instead of calling for help and telling us to NOT make the one decision we're about to make which causes a chain reaction to that Skynet-ruled dystopia. This is why I watch Paulogia, he is super dedicated to accuracy.
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@jenna2431 · 2 years ago
You gotta love when a Christian runs with 7 "proofs" and then leads with a speculation propped up by a piece of scroll that's maybe the size of your palm.
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@plattbagarn · 2 years ago
"Why would they lie?" Because they were trying to start a cult.
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@omnikevlar2338 · 2 years ago
Seems like Dr. James Tabor is having the time of his life with teaching his new course. I am very happy for him!
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@resurrectionnerd · 2 years ago
Luke 9:8<br><i>Now Herod the tetrarch heard about all that was going on. And he was perplexed because some were saying that John had been raised from the dead, others that Elijah had appeared, and still others that one of the prophets of long ago had arisen.</i><br><br>This establishes the belief in a single dying and rising prophet figure existed prior to the death of Jesus and in the exact same socio-cultural context.
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@DrKippDavis · 2 years ago
@<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5fwT8FtmTE&t=1169">19:29</a> — There is more to discuss here for sure, but if Dr. Tabor is eager to have such a discussion, perhaps Jeremiah J. Johnston won't be keen to respond (god knows, I can't get him to respond to me, but perhaps James will have better luck), but in any event these are things I am also happy about which to have friendly chats.<br><br>I should say, I am just happy to see more people getting excited about the volumes of amazing information in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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@MythVisionPodcast · 2 years ago
This is epic Paul! These edits are amazing! Dr. Tabor's course is fantastic! Hail Skynet!
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@Hailfire08 · 2 years ago
The thing I find striking about these apologetics is how clearly they're arguing to a conclusion, not arguing to the truth. When Jesus matches expectations, he's the Messiah because he's fulfilling prophecy. When he's breaking expectations, he's the Messiah because they couldn't have made it up. Heads I win, tails you lose.<br><br>Hey apologists, how about this: if Jesus breaks expectations, he's breaking prophecy and so couldn't be the Messiah, and when he meets expectations, it's clearly being made up by people who wanted to claim prophecy fulfilled. Now what?
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@corvinredacted · 2 years ago (edited)
It's interesting that Christian scholars argue both that Jesus' death was obviously prophesied by the texts and that no contemporary scholars would have interpreted it that way at the time.
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