Best Football Player Ever? RichsWrath on Ronaldo vs. Messi - Discussion Not Debate (Football)

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• CR

  @cryfest · 2 years ago

  Messi came out good on this one.

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• MA

  @Martin-pq8mj · 2 years ago

  Finally a Messi-Ronaldo discussion worth listening to.<br><br>Unfortunately, it was over pretty quickly when Rich made essentially two statements: Messi is by far the most &quot;effective&quot; footballer ever - passes, dribbles, chances, ball circulation, and of course, goals and finishing. And two, trophies are pretty much meaningless when football is a team game and ballon d&apos;or useless because they&apos;re voted and subject to massive bias. Rich indulged Thorin here but essentially restated those two in different ways across the hour and a half.<br><br>The only real point Ronaldo can challenge Messi on is big goals, and even that&apos;s fairly revisionist. No doubt Ronaldo has got huge goals in big moments, particularly in the CL, but that was only from around 2014. The first half of their careers Ronaldo was known as a choker and Messi was the one scoring in big moments.

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• RI

  @Rille922 · 2 years ago

  I think Messis strength is severely underrated. Look at his 91 goal a year season, something people don’t remember is that he weighed more than usual that year. That led to him never being taken to the ground, he would play more centrally and skip past 2-3 players consistently and just ride the challenges. In general that’s something great smaller players like him could do, they became experts at using the opponents strength against them, using them as a springboard to move ahead.

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• MM

  @mmmnn1324 · 2 years ago

  It really is incredible how productive thorin is. I don&apos;t know any other content creator who creates so much content that is also of such high quality.

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• YA

  @yassirelhidani6803 · 2 years ago

  &quot;Why i put messi second is because ronaldo goes to the gym&quot; lmao

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• AR

  @arthurnunes7184 · 2 years ago

  One great point that i think they forgot to bring is that messi has the most goals in finals (35x22) aswell as assists (15x2). While its a fact that ronaldo is the &quot;Mrs Champions&quot; you just can&apos;t miss the fact they both played in La Liga and in Copa del Rey and the outcome goes massively towards Messi. &nbsp;Its like ignoring the domestical results and only factoring worlds.

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• AL

  @AlanSchorsch · 4 months ago

  Best goal scorer, best passer, best dribbler, best playmaker, Done 🤷‍♂️

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• ST

  @streakycabbage · 2 years ago

  Rich had great counters for pretty much everything but he is arguing the easier side. Rough one for Thorin but really enjoyed the dialogue.

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• YA

  @yassirelhidani6803 · 2 years ago

  After 2018 , messi (2019) should get the ballon d&apos;or , stats eye test , he was literally one man army he was playmaker and a goalscorer , 2019 was his second best season behind peak 2011/2012 season.

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• FE

  @FelipeNascimento-ch1er · 2 years ago

  Great show thorin, was sorta expecting something like this on the lfn sports channel with the boys but nevertheless still amazing

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• MØ

  @MørkyFØ · 2 years ago

  Rich was a great guest! Would love to hear Thorin&apos;s opinion of the new UCL format

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• JW

  @Jwarchild · 2 years ago

  Loved this video!! Thorin&apos;s Side has been providing excellent content for what feels like an eternity now. Keep that shit up Thorin!

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