One Way Out: Andor Season 1

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  @Ladyknightthebrave · 3 years ago · pinned

  So a bunch of people in the comments and a couple friends have reached out to me to let me know that I missed a trick by not consulting with some indigenous people about the whole unsubtitled Kenari take. <br>From what I&apos;ve been told it&apos;s very representative of many peoples indigenous experience of losing their language due to colonization. It&apos;s quite possible that an adult Cassian may no longer remember the language of Kenari at all so by forcing the audience to feel that separation and alienation it gives us a taste of what a young Kassa may have experienced, especially after he was brought to Ferrix. <br>My friend told me I was almost there but he could tell I hadn&apos;t consulted with any native folk and he was right. It didn&apos;t occur to me to check with folk outside of my Latine sensitivity readers. I appreciate all the people who&apos;ve written thoughtful comments about this. I will try to do better in the future.

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  @e.m.9478 · 3 years ago

  I will never get over Brasso smashing that dude with Marva&apos;s brick. Fucking amazing series

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  @Misty_Fox · 1 year ago

  Funny bit about Fest being Andor&apos;s birth-planet: <br>Gilroy talked in an interview how when they were writing Andor he looked at the wookipedia and found Fest being listed as his home planet, which Gilroy was confused by. Not him, nor Edwards, nor Luna had come up with that, and he searched where that backstory had even come from to find it was from the Rogue One novelization. While most other creatives would have retconned it without a second thought (like how Rise of Skywalker retconned Poe&apos;s entire backstory from the novels to support a racist stereotype and a cheap joke) Gilroy didn&apos;t want to completely undermine what fans had learned from the novel, so he wrote it in as Cassian&apos;s cover story instead.

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  @mastelsa · 3 years ago

  I 100% understand the stance that having no subtitles for Cassian&apos;s native language was alienating. &nbsp;Personally, the effect that I got from it wasn&apos;t alienation from Cassian and the other kids. &nbsp;For me, not having subtitles for those bits made me key in even more to the acting and the emotionality of the kids, which I think made me empathize more. &nbsp;The emotions and experiences didn&apos;t need to be translated to be understood because they are universally understandable. &nbsp;We know what happened here--we don&apos;t need to be told. &nbsp;The other thing it did for me is really underscore that Cassian is a survivor of a genocide--that we don&apos;t get to see any subtitles for his native language because a translation <i>cannot be made.</i> &nbsp;That this is a permanently lost language because of what the Empire did to Kenari. &nbsp;I can understand and respect alternate perspectives on this, but when I watched it I remember explicitly thinking that it was a pretty deep-cutting, ballsy decision to not have subtitles for those scenes.

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  @matgonzalez6272 · 3 years ago

  It broke my heart when they all finally get to freedom and he goes “I can’t swim”…<br><br>You realize in that moment that he knew he wasn’t ever leaving, but he fought for them all anyway. That visceral feeling (multiple times throughout) of sacrificing for the greater good was so goddamned potent.

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  @1967sluggy · 3 years ago

  One thing I want to point out about the ship fight: besides being cool, its brilliant storytelling.<br><br>Luthen’s whole ideology is “we push the Empire to tighten their grip, more and more, until it gets too tight and it snaps back”. In that scene, he gets to demonstrate it: little annoyances cause the Imperial Captain to up the tractor beam, until Luthen makes a seemingly incompetent escape attempt (an act of outright rebellion) at which point the beam (repression) is turned up to maximum. At this point, Luthen unleashes the chaff: a cloud of otherwise insignificant little things that, due to the strength of the beam (repression) overwhelm the Imperial ship. It’s an uprising.<br><br>It’s his entire ideology demonstrated in a single scene. And it’s perfect.

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  @jerrykong · 3 years ago

  Narkina 5 is part prison, part concentration camp, and part Amazon warehouse. <br><br>JFC, this is amazingly true.

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  @ninasimpson6639 · 3 years ago

  Here&apos;s the thing, I think that learning Cassian helped make the Death Star isnt sad, but almost hopeful because he halted production! Him stoping the prison, getting all 5000 people out halting the prison and getting it out of power for months helped halt production. Maybe it was only for a bit, maybe they stopped a few more pieces but it mattered, because how close where they to getting the death star plans? By seconds. Every second mattered, and every rebel helped buy a precious few seconds for a farm boy to make the shot.

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  @charliecussans7638 · 3 years ago

  &quot;Fun&quot; fact: the hitting bits of random metal to alert people comes from The Troubles in Northern Ireland, when a similar thing was used to warn of upcoming Army/Police raids.

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  @AuntyKsTarot · 3 years ago

  As a Lakota 60’s scoop survivor who left my “adoptive”/scoop home at 15 to join the Indigenous occupations in canada in the 1990’s Andor was the most relatable thing I’ve ever watched in my life. That there was no subtitles actually made me cry.

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  @UnreasonableOpinions · 3 years ago

  A lot of other posters have suggested Kenari is not a generic language but specifically a lost language that we cannot learn because Andor has forgotten it, and I&apos;m sure this can&apos;t be an accident since this theme of language and loss is a huge theme throughout the show in general. In addition to the upfront loss of language, the only other place we see Cassian being told about the Kenari is a brothel - the entire idea of the Kenari has been reduced to an exotic, upmarket fetish. One of Luthen&apos;s artifacts he shows off ,all of which are otherwise given pretty clear implied meaning, one is a tablet that can&apos;t be understood because the language has been lost. With the Empire torturer, an entire species has been utterly eradicated EXCEPT their language, but it is in this case their cries of pain, distorted and mutilated to serve the preferences of the Empire. In the absurdist trial sequence, the ability to control what language means is the main source of power of the Empire judge. In prison, the ability to conceal their intent through language is what keeps the prisoners from rebelling, and losing that control leads to revolt.<br><br>Fascist genocide may end with camps and crematoria, but it starts with the will to power, deciding that you can control reality through the control of language.

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  @Draptok · 2 years ago

  It took me several viewings to realize this, but I&apos;m pretty sure the reason Cassian starts attacking the machinery is because he sees the facepaint he put on in imitation of the nameless child leader who stood up for his right to come on the &quot;mission&quot; in an earlier scene, and is suddenly overwhelmed about her death and this series of events that led to it.

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