First time watching Hunger Games The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes movie reaction

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  @BaddMedicine · 2 years ago · pinned

  What an interesting story for Snow. Did this meet your expectations? Did they follow the book enough? What did we miss from the book to the film?<br><br>Badd Medicine Arcade channel <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHIstVk00GtduPIXlJLdC3A">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHIstVk00GtduPIXlJLdC3A</a> <br> <br>Early Drops &amp; Full Reactions on YT Memberships &amp; Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/baddmedicine">https://www.patreon.com/baddmedicine</a> &nbsp; <br> <br>Backup channel Subscribe here <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1CLUwA27dz-94o3FR0o3xg">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1CLUwA27dz-94o3FR0o3xg</a>

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• ED

  @eduardosilva-gm2vu · 2 years ago (edited)

  A cool fact to know: Mags, the old lady from Catching Fire, was the winner of the 11th edition of the games. From there, the winners received a cash prize and a house in the victor&apos;s village. Until then they simply didn&apos;t get anything for winning. And Lucy&apos;s edition, as it was a test that went wrong because Snow cheated, fell into oblivion because they erased all the recordings from that edition. So no one remembers who won. Katniss even says in the book: That district 12 only had two winners: Haymitch and someone else that no one remembers... Lucy became a mystery and something Snow couldn&apos;t control, it haunted him for many, many years.

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  @jeane_b · 2 years ago

  oak is probably the only one i&apos;ve heard review who caught that coriyo was bad the whole time. he showed it in very subtle ways in the movie. in the book, it&apos;s clearer that he isn&apos;t that great because of his inner thoughts. he did feel attached to lucy gray but i don&apos;t think he really loved her because his interests always came first.<br><br>a lot of viewers who didn&apos;t read the book thought coriyo screaming in the forest was abrupt. i don&apos;t think so, even if you didn&apos;t get much hint that he was selfish all along. after the snake bite, he had enough reason to mistrust lucy gray. and again, he can only trust himself. his personal dream was always to be in high rankings in the capitol. that was always his driving force.

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• KA

  @kaitlynduren3698 · 2 years ago

  Something the movie couldn&apos;t capture perfectly was just how awful his inner thoughts are in the book. He hated Sejanus the entire time, he saw Lucy as a piece to move and own, and he was constantly thinking of how he could advance himself from the very beginning from the first page.

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• GD

  @gdesiree29 · 2 years ago

  Oak Is 100% correct. Snow only cared for lucy for his own benefit and ego. His inner thoughts in the book , he viewed lucy as his property. He said he rather see her in the zoo or the arena so he can keep an eye on her. His inner thoughts are messed up. Once he found the guns, he was so excited to go back home but he realized that lucy was the last loose end so he became paranoid and decided to hunt her down. Love the Easter eggs about katniss. The bow and arrow in the arena untouched, the mockingjays, the hanging tree, the plant . Lucy gray last words to snow was she was gonna look for katniss. Katniss was Lucy&apos;s vengeance even Sejanus. We don&apos;t know what happened to lucy gray. As she said to snow, &quot;she&apos;s a mystery&quot;. But I believe she&apos;s free .

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• TM

  @tmm4195 · 2 years ago

  Oak&apos;s take is incredibly impressive and spot on for someone who has not read the book. Snow being a snake and self-motivated from the very start can be easy to miss from only watching the movie, but you are absolutely right. So many people sympathized with Snow after watching this movie, which was disappointing and the opposite of what the author was going for. So it&apos;s really refreshing to see that someone understands how shitty he really was the whole time

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• ST

  @stevepool8034 · 2 years ago (edited)

  All right, guys, Lucky Flickerman is Cesar Flickerman’s ancestor. The girl who died at the zoo was Arachne Crane who was an ancestor of Seneca Crane, gamemaker in first HG movie. There was even Hilarius Heavensbee who was Plutarch Heavensbee’s ancestor. Tigris, Snow&apos;s cousin, is also the cat face woman in Mockingjay 2. And finally, Lucy Gray wrote the Hanging Tree which Katniss also sang. Good reaction, guys. 👍🏻

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  @nicolitae · 2 years ago

  This movie just made me rewatch every thg movie and realize that it was SO PERSONAL to Snow, imagine his face when the proppo of katniss singing The Hanging Tree, the song HIS EX wrote for him. HILARIOUS.

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  @ailene_e · 2 years ago

  I like that Lucy Gray isn’t portrayed in this way of “I’m in love with this guy so all my sense and my instincts go out the window”. Lucy saw the writing on the wall and got out of there. She’s smart and probably always had her doubts about Snow. When he lied, it was the confirmation she needed he wasn’t a good guy. I really liked the movie, definitely such a good dive into a fascinating villain!

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• TJ

  @tjnguyen8546 · 2 years ago (edited)

  Oak, THANK YOU! You&apos;re the first person who really understood the point of this film. You&apos;re SUPPOSED to be looking for the moment where Snow &quot;turns bad&quot;, but, like you said, the fact of the matter is that he was ALWAYS bad, it was just a matter of how honest he was with himself. (In the book, it&apos;s a lot more obvious that he&apos;s evil from the jump, but the subtlety is necessary for the movie adaptation.) And another thing: he and Lucy Gray had in common that they were both snakes, in a way, that they were both motivated solely by survival. The difference was that Snow saw that as an excuse to unleash his cruelty, and Lucy Gray (as she said in the woods) saw it as a reminder of the constant struggle to try to do good anyway. Brilliant review guys, I&apos;d been waiting for this one! &lt;3<br><br>Oh, and an Easter Egg you missed: the song Lucy Gray sings when Snow first comes up to her in the field is the same song that Katniss sang in Mockingjay (&quot;The Hanging Tree&quot;). The implication is that Lucy Gray wrote the song. So, if you want to have some fun in your head, just imagine Donald Sutherland as Snow hearing Katniss&apos;s name, coming from District 12, playing that song, and trying not to visibly lose his mind.

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  @margaretd4210 · 2 years ago (edited)

  Snows villian origin story is so unique and probably my favorite of any I’ve ever seen because it’s not like the cliche “he was good, then he experienced trauma and turned bad overnight” both the book and the movie are excellent at showing that he was never fully good to begin with. His father who he idolized was snobbish and power hungry, and after he died snows main objective was to gain his families fortune and influence back at ANY cost so they wouldn’t be looked down on by other capitol dynasties. The book especially illustrates how snow already had some pretty sadistic opinions that only manifested more powerfully throughout the course of knowing Lucy gray, Sejanus, Dr. Gaul, etc. (for example: Oak is correct about his motivations for Lucy gray being 100% self benefiting, to the point that he sees Lucy gray as “his,” something he “created” and is his “property”. So in the book when she sings her song on tv about Billy Taupe, Snow’s having a hissy fit in his head the whole time because, is his words, “I wanted to be the only guy you thought about.”

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• AD

  @adelm7182 · 2 years ago

  &quot;And he didn’t like love, the way it had made him feel stupid and vulnerable. If he ever married, he’d choose someone incapable of swaying his heart. Someone he hated, even, so they could never manipulate him the way Lucy Gray had. Never make him feel jealous. Or weak. Livia Cardew would be perfect. He imagined the two of them, the president and his first lady, presiding over the Hunger Games a few years from now. He’d continue the Games, of course, when he ruled Panem. People would call him a tyrant, ironfisted and cruel. But at least he would ensure survival for survival’s sake, giving them a chance to evolve. What else could humanity hope for? Really, it should thank him.&quot;<br><br>“It’s the things we love most that destroy us”

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