The Destiny of Dave Strider
101K views · Oct 25, 2023 · Gaming
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@sunbirth4795 · 2 years ago
THE FACT THAT I NEVER PUT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO ROOFTOP BATTLES TOGETHER... FINALLY SAVING A VERSION OF HIS BROTHER WORTH SAVING.... THANK YOu mate
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@nathanblackburn1193 · 2 years ago (edited)
Homestuck's version of a "hero" is very Greco-Roman like the story of Heracles being a "hero" is less about being a good person and more about overcoming great trials, this ironically makes Caliborn the most "heroic" character in Homestuck by this definition which makes sense given Caliborn's paradoxical influence over the entirety of the story, the very reason why everyone in the story thinks being a hero means doing great things and overcoming trials is because of Caliborn through Doc Scratch subtly manipulating Alternia and by extension Earth's culture (along with Beta Bro Dirk through Lil, Cal) to believe that.
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@MariaEduarda-ng1th · 2 years ago
Its also tragicomic that Dave was so afraid that admiting he was gay because of the masculinity his brother imposed to him, just to find out his brother was gay too<br>Like shows how terrible their relationship was that Dave not only never noticed but also repressed his own sexuality
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@Arzamol5 · 2 years ago
It's easy to assume during the initial presentation of Dave and Bro's relationship that it's just meant to be a cartoony parody of a typical sibling rivalry, mixed with wacky video game themed shenanigans. Taking Bro's actions literally makes him seem monstrous, but you're not always supposed to take fictional stuff that literally. The later reframing of the relationship as abusive makes total sense, but the story could have honestly gone either way with it.
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@godrusemary · 2 years ago
I don't think I'll ever stop appreciating just how engaging so many of Homestuck's characters are. There really is nothing like this comic and the characters it contains. It makes Homestuck something incredibly special, but it also makes me kinda sad. I don't think any other media will ever truly be able to replicate what Homestuck did. I'll cherish that first read forever
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@alexdoesthings23 · 2 years ago
dave is truly the character of all time
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@bobmechobob · 2 years ago
I also argue that Davepeta exists as the perfect blend to hurt English in another way. Davepeta, the fusion of: The guy who is "destined" to kill Lord English and someone who acts JUST LIKE Caliope. Lord English is forever stuck in a weird adolescence, he can never complete what his biology demands that he seek out. He destroys everything in his path out of hatred at Caliope because he's unable to blame himself. He does nothing but seek her out, and then suddenly he's face to face with someone who is both destined to be his end, but also someone who is just like the girl he's destroying multiverses to find. There is also a fun little note of the fact that Lord English, well known misogynist, was fighting someone who was the fusion of male and female.<br><br>Gods I love Davepeta more than I should.
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@mind_11 · 2 years ago
Wow, I think your interpretation of the story makes the entire "meta story" of Homestuck actually feel coherent.
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@anecro · 2 years ago (edited)
The whole concept of heroism and Dave being a follower vs Dirk who acts like a leader is oddly simple once you look at their god tiers, they say it all. Dave is a Knight, one of the clearer classes in Homestuck, a protector and an asset for somebody to give orders to, he's a weapon. On top of this he's a Time player, an aspect intertwined with destruction (all the swords he breaks and other destructive characteristics he possesses, even in his character) and the more literal timeline shenanigans that are forced upon him because of his aspect.<br><br>Dirk is a Prince, he has the most classic ruler-type class out there and on top of this he's the Prince of Heart, an aspect connected to the soul. He's strong willed, often disregarding his friends' reluctance and denial to do something in order to push further, he's not the best leader thanks to this form of leadership that doesn't involve taking into account people's feelings and needs (another reason why Roxy excels as the invisible true leader of the group) but he gets done what needs to get done, he just doesn't have a barrier for what is "too far" thanks to that coldness, which results in him manipulating people and being borderline abusive himself a lot of the time.<br><br>All of this is also relevant when talking about Bro and Dave. This follower - leader back and forth can be felt in how Dave keeps putting up with his guardian's abuse and humors him every time he's summoned by him, whether that's for a rooftop battle or something else. He's of course a child who can't do much when you start thinking about it more realistically but the connection can be made regardless, which is so cool once you realize it, how so far before the concept of god tiers was even introduced those mechanisms were up and running. Not every kid in the comic responds this way to their guardian's call, Rose for example prefers to hide away from her mother and refuses to oblige to anything she wants her to do, she doesn't let her boss her around and resists.
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@Markuzzzthedawg · 10 months ago
Davepeta is the equivalent of a middle finger to a final boss that was Lord English (Caliborn) since that bastard wanted something BIG, THEATRICAL, EPIC, but instead has his ass kicked by some random fusion of a dave and a furry.
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@ollyyyyyyyyy1352 · 2 years ago (edited)
great video, but honestly i think you're too hard on lil hal. he's in the same boat but davesprite, except he's got it even worse. just like davesprite <b>is</b> dave, lil hal <b>is</b> dirk. he's the same old control freak dirk except he's lost all control over his life and even his body, condemned to being a disembodied consciousness in his stupid ironic glasses. and he can't even try talking about it to anyone, because his friends who he dearly loves all hate him now for being an annoyance they have to go through to get to the "real" dirk. the only person on earth who'll even acknowledge he's a sentient being is the other dirk, and both dirks hate dirk strider. he can't even kill himself to end his suffering, because he's too scared. because something in him refuses to let dirk strider die. no matter what, he needs to stick it out and try to claw a foothold into reality again, to try and regain some modicum of control of his life. <br><br>the fact he lived like that for so long and only became kind of an asshole to the people who'd been abusing him for years is a testament to how evil he isn't
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@skullisbones · 2 years ago
BROKEN SWORDS. you hit on everything
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