Why Rangers Suck in Dungeons and Dragons

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  @OneShotQuesters · 3 years ago · pinned

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  @UMCorian · 3 years ago (edited)

  I think BG3 basically overhauled D&amp;D Rangers and made them good just by tweaking the paradigm. They made them not reliant on being in particular terrain to be effective, but gave them bonuses <b>because</b> of the terrains they&apos;ve acclimated to. Desert rangers get fire resistance anywhere. Arctic Rangers get Cold resistance everywhere. Because you specialize in Bounty Hunting, you get a skill AND the ability to do a thing vs. <b>everything</b> that&apos;s reflective of your style. They took the flair and flipped it around. It&apos;s not: &quot;Because you&apos;re an arctic ranger that hunts undead, you are only useful when you&apos;re in the Arctic and hunting Undead.&quot; which has been such a terrible design for so long.

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  @Aevum13th · 3 years ago (edited)

  Tasha&apos;s Beast Master Variant: &quot;I have returned with more power than you ever know!&quot;<br>It honestly feels like the Primal Beast is another party member, mostly because its helpful in and out of combat, whereas most other pet classes specialize in combat.

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  @theoverseer9153 · 3 years ago

  Main issue with ranger is unfortunately it is too based around specialization in a very specific setting other than general use, Tasha&apos;s cauldron did a really good job expanding on a more generalist playstyle. Unfortunately it still suffers from not being the best at what it is meant for.

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  @QuadrastarGD · 3 years ago (edited)

  A member of our group actually wanted to try out the ranger, but since he knew how much he sucked, everyone agreed to buff him a little. Mainly, we let him do increased damage on favourite enemy and since he also chose beastmaster, we allowed his companions to scale with his level, have autonomous action and he could choose between quality or quantity, based on what he summoned. This may not sound like much, but in the late game he had the choice of supporting us with a goblin horde, or a pet dragon... yeah, we definitely fixed the class XD

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  @kalel1805 · 3 years ago

  I feel like Ranger is definitely a class that you need to talk to your DM about if you&apos;re going to play so you can build them to be useful. They&apos;re the only real class that specializes in the exploration aspect of D&amp;D. Plus, if built right, they can&apos;t get the burst damage a Rogue or Paladin can, but they can get consistent DPS, and that&apos;s pretty damned handy.

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  @Aziara86 · 3 years ago

  My husband (who DMs for us) was shaking his head the whole time. Lol.<br><br>He&apos;s like, &quot;No no no, a war-trained animal wouldn&apos;t need an action to attack. You&apos;d have to use an action if you want to stop it. Or, I could have you run animal handling checks during stressful situations to prevent your creature from starting combat.&quot;<br><br>Maybe I&apos;ll start a ranger, lol

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  @lucasm.3864 · 3 years ago

  Meanwhile a revised Gloomstalker Ranger is an absolute monster. Amazing out of combat healing, great mobility, great damage (not to mention Conjure Animals), great stealth, has Pass Without Trace (so then the Paladin in plate mail can be stealthy), and great multiclassing synergy.

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  @LocalMaple · 3 years ago (edited)

  My Rogue-Ranger gave my DM PTSD. He threw me into a cage match, against a single enemy my level in CR, and then both doubled its HP and Hasted it. <i>I wasn’t bloodied.</i><br>I wasn’t trying to break the game. I was trying to replicate X-Men’s Nightcrawler.<br><br>Rogue added Sneak Damage, Booming Blade, and a Familiar for Help. Ranger had Zephyr Strike, Planar Warrior, and additional spells to benefit the party.

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  @HolyTigerLord · 3 years ago

  In my experience, playing Ranger is something you need to work closely with your DM on considering how specialized it is. In my early games I had to request that my player change his favored terrain simply because we weren&apos;t ever really going to encounter it. So it being at no fault of his own, since we were playing a homebrew campaign and much of what they were going into was a mystery, I permitted a retcon with advised terrain options.

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  @joshuaseagondollar2495 · 3 years ago

  Drakewarden will always be my favorite Ranger subclass.<br>Having a pet dragon to help you incinerate things can be pretty fun.

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  @bananabanana484 · 3 years ago

  Ranger is actually pretty good if you use the optional features. They give you more spells, free casting of those spells, and the modern subclasses pack a little more punch. It’s not the best class, but it’s got good spells, fun subclasses, and bow + arrow.

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