Trolleybus VS Battery Bus - Which One Is The Future?

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  @cityforall · 3 years ago · pinned

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  @yrr0r244 · 3 years ago (edited)

  The biggest reason I love trolleybuses is when the bus gets bigger, there&apos;s no need to put a bigger battery in there because they source electricity from overhead wires. So in my opinion the bi-articulated or even tri-articulated trolleybuses are usually a better investment than the standard size ones.

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  @edward28051989 · 3 years ago

  Trolleybus is the real Eco-friendly bus.

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  @AlRoderick · 3 years ago

  Trolley buses are unambiguously good. We should definitely have wires put up in our cities and we should also use those wires for other things as well, like the garbage trucks, postal vans, snow plows and such. We should make the batteries in those vehicles relatively small and probably interchangeable as opposed to fitting them with a gigantic battery that mostly just sits there being hauled around.<br><br>With advances in robotics and sensors, it shouldn&apos;t be that difficult to design a system that can put the poles back onto the wires autonomously basically anywhere. <br><br>However, I have to push back a little bit on the stuff about the mining, most of the stories are overblown and a lot of them are propaganda from oil companies. Oil companies, by the way are the biggest consumers of cobalt, it&apos;s used in diesel refining. The fire risk is definitely real, but we&apos;re starting to see interesting breakthroughs in sodium ion battery chemistry that has a much reduced fire risk. It&apos;s got a lower energy density but as I said we shouldn&apos;t be putting multiple ton batteries in the buses anyway.<br><br>Good presentation overall.

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  @dercfts1 · 3 years ago (edited)

  I live in Kyiv and the main public transport option that I use is trolleybus! Kyiv trolleybuses are just iconic

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  @rasmAn2 · 3 years ago

  i&apos;ve lived in Arnhem for 15 years now, all maintenance i&apos;ve known to have been done in this time is when a lorry that shouldn&apos;t have been where it was drove into a bridge and smooched the wires. there was also one street that got extensively redone, and in the meantime the poles holding the wires up got redone. both were done within a few days. there is one truly ancient service lorry that is an event when it&apos;s spotted, i&apos;ve seen it twice when a storm made some branches fall on the wires. wires last a long time, but if they need to be changed, the service lorry comes by at night, and changes the wires over at about 2kmh, without any noise that would wake anyone. As stated, the network is about 70 years old and doing just fine. the amount of maintenance seems to be quite minimal, as does the additional outages and delays. the worst thing that seems to happen is that someone pulls the ropes of the fishing poles to be funny, but it seems most people of questionable intelligence think that that is where the electricity is, so it doesn&apos;t happen all that often

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  @miroslawmoczyrog · 3 years ago

  Trolleybuses with batteries give you the best of both: they are lighter, cheaper, autonomous, don&apos;t need dedicated chargers, do not waste time on charging, don&apos;t require overhanging cables everywhere, are able to reroute

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  @ClipperAnonymous2937 · 3 years ago (edited)

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P9S_ZTXseM&amp;t=156">2:36</a> I REALLY appreciate him saying &quot;Two and a half hundred&quot; instead of Two hundred fifty for some reason.... My day really needed that!

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  @demyandanyluk7399 · 3 years ago

  Save trolleybuses!

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  @CreatureXXII · 3 years ago

  In Vancouver Canada there&apos;s lots of trolley buses. I rode the number 19 which takes you to Stanley Park and I got to say, trolley buses accelerate fast! They&apos;re definitely one of my favourite type of buses second only to double deckers.

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  @thoughtfox2409 · 3 years ago

  Trollybusses are great for citys with a high frequency, battery-electric busses are great for low-frequency longer range routes, like in rural areas or for special services. A Public transit network should always have a few network-indipendent busses, to compensate for big events, accidents and construction on mainlines, evactuations etc. even if it usually only runs trollybusses.

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  @markusstudeli2997 · 3 years ago

  The way to go is to combine the two, like shown with your Solingen example: Until recently, some trolley buses had auxiliary diesel motors to maneuver around bus yards, parts without overhead wires or obstacles on their regular lines. Now, these auxiliary motors can be replaced by batteries that can be recharged via the overhead wires. <br>These batteries are rather small and lighter than an auxiliary motor with fuel, and usually don&apos;t have a wide range, but they allow the buses to reach the next functioning power lines. Unlike diesel motors they don&apos;t need start-up time nor an additional fuel supply. <br>What makes these systems additionally attractive is their ability to recuperate energy when braking, which saves both energy and break pads abrasion. <br>The size of the battery packs can be adapted to the specific needs of a system. In Salzburg, for example, one trolley line extends far beyond the city overhead wire system into a suburb. The bus runs and recharges first under the wire system of the city and then runs autonomously on the country road out to the suburb for a total of more than 20 km.<br>Employing these dual mode buses offers easy solutions for example when it comes to opening routes that cross a railway line with conflicting overhead wires, or underneath low bridges with insufficient clearance to install overhead wires.

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