The Group B Rally Monster That Used Citroen's Crazy Hydraulic Suspension! Citroen BX 4TC

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  @alexlang5649 · 4 years ago

  The road going version is strangely attractive...it looks like something out of Space 1999

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• YA

  @yakacm · 4 years ago

  The road going version has aged really well, I think it looks great.

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• TW

  @twowheelstouring482 · 4 years ago

  The BX was a great car, I had 4 of them, bit light at the front end prone to wheel spin but the 1.7l turbo diesel could put some modern motors to shame.

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• OV

  @OverblownOverthrown · 4 years ago

  Good video but the Citroen hydraulics had already been put to good use in rallying with the DS, SM, and CX. The hydraulics weren’t the problem

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• DI

  @dionysos46 · 4 years ago

  The Chrysler 2.3Litre was too heavy and under powered for Gr.B Rally. However, the Rallycross version of the BX with the T16 engine was a chrono killer with Jean-Luc Pailler at the steering wheel.

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• BY

  @byronmills5952 · 4 years ago

  Other than the Hydro suspension - the actual mechanical layout of the car wasn't that dissimilar to a Quattro bar the lack of 1 engine cylinder - the Simca engine used was an immensely strong unit and could withstand very high degrees of boost - Peugeot also used it in turbcharged form in oversea market 505s. What with the Peugeot 205t16 totally dominating Group B  at the time - it always confused me why PSA bankrolled this I'll fated project - especially as it killed off Talbot UK's potential Group B follow up to the Sunbeam Lotus - An Esprit turbo based mid engined Talbot Horizon - of which at least one prototype still remains.

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• EM

  @emma.jacobs1 · 4 years ago

  It’s not fair to say the hydro-pneumatic suspension was untested in rallying - the DS had quite a lot of success, especially in longer distance events/rough conditions

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• RA

  @Rammstein56 · 4 years ago (edited)

  Most probably this car but certainly &nbsp;the works car of Phillippe Wambergue (Citroen&apos;s second works driver) were laying in a French scrapyard waiting to be demolished, &nbsp;<br>However the scrapyard owner knew Mr Phillippe Wambergue gave him a call one day &nbsp;and said hey, I got a car here with your name on it. Mr. Wambergue got there and stood eye to eye with his last rally car from Citroen he drove as a works driver. &nbsp;His car was complete except for the seats and a track rod that had been removed and he still owns his own ex-works &nbsp;car I believe, (I have not seen him for a log time). Mr Wambergue told me Citroen choose the Audi Quattro lay out and used the 8 valve engine of the Talbot Tagora which was also used in some &nbsp;Peugeot 505 models.<br>As the budgets were very tight they decided to improve the cars while rallying, they knew they&apos;d meet with problems along the way. <br>After the Acropolis, Group B were banned and Citroen were very happy to throw in the towel, I have a picture somewhere of a transporter carrying works cars, some were even not finished at Heuliez ( the carrossier who built the 4TC&apos;s for Citroen) on their way to the crusher. It is a miracle that these two cars survived, I don&apos;t know of a third Acropolis example but the works drivers were Andruet (left on the picture you show in the video and Mr Wambergue on the right) I do know that Mr Wambergue has or had these 2 BX 4TC ex-works cars. But let&apos;s face it, just like the Metro 6R4 the BX 4TC was not given enough time and money to mature into the Group B circus.

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• OR

  @organiccold · 4 years ago (edited)

  What a odd machine. We have to love Citroen for what they done to the car world

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• BU

  @BudgetBuilderChris · 4 years ago

  I wish my friend Dane was still around to see this. He genuinely loved citroens and I know he&apos;d of certainly of loved to of watched this. R.i.P brother x

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• BE

  @BenJBuchanan · 4 years ago (edited)

  “The last nail on the head for Citroen“ 🤣<br>Jack please never script your videos, your off the top of your head comments and spontaneous observations are what make them so watchable. I think I could watch you review paint dry and enjoy it!<br><br>Great video and really interesting subject. I actually love the look of the road car. Imagine turning up to cars and coffee in that! 👌🏻😎

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• BO

  @boss12 · 4 years ago

  These are so cool. Failures or not. I love Group B.

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