Why Boeing 797 Will Be The New 727

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  @brianlynch2512 · 2 weeks ago

  I’m a retired Flight Engineer and flew two military heavy jet aircraft the C-141b, and the C-5 A,B,C models and two commercial aircraft the B727-200 series, and the L-1011 dash 50, 100, 500 series. The 727 was a fast aircraft, the one thing I still remember that the wing tips would at high speeds begin to go super sonic as you could watch the trim wheel trying to trim the aircraft from the Mach tuck, inside it sounded like duct rumble. We would say kick the tires and light the fires, a very dependable aircraft and everyone I knew that flew it loved it like I did!❤

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  @lawrenceedger292 · 2 weeks ago

  Boeing buys McDonnell Douglas but it was the executives from MD that ended up badly managing Boeing. What irony

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  @Flies2FLL · 2 weeks ago (edited)

  The 757 was the new 727. &nbsp;In fact, it was initially the 727-300, a stretched fuselage with three uprated JT8D-217 engines. &nbsp;But then came the fuel crisis and United told Boeing they didn&apos;t want it. &nbsp;What they wanted was the longer fuselage with new high-bypass ratio engines. &nbsp;So that is what Boeing designed, a stretched 727 with a new wing and wing mounted engines. &nbsp;It kept the 727 cockpit minus the flight engineer, and kept the T tail minus the three engines. &nbsp;<br><br>Someone at Boeing had a stroke of genius: &nbsp;&quot;Hey, let&apos;s graft the cockpit of the new 767 onto the narrow body and do the same thing with the tail unit&quot;, and that is what happened. &nbsp;That is why you step DOWN into the cockpit of the 757; &nbsp;In order to fit the wide instrument panel, they had to lower it to the widest point of the fuselage and this give this airplane it&apos;s distinctive look in profile. &nbsp;And since the panels were the same, there was so much commonality that an airline could buy both and their pilots could fly both. Normally that never happens, you fly one airplane type ONLY or have to spend 3 months in training for another type. But this commonality produced the first combined type rating. &nbsp;I know it, because for a while I flew 757 and 767 interchangeably. &nbsp;They had different cockpit screens, since our new-build 767 freighters have 787 large display screens, while our 757&apos;s were converted passenger airplanes from all over the place with different screens, but it was approximately going from a Ford F150 to a Chevy Silverado. &nbsp;A little different, but not a major change.<br><br>The display control panels were in different places, the 757 next to your knee while the 767&apos;s was on top of the glare shield. &nbsp;So your hand was always hovering up and down! &nbsp;That was about it. I never had a problem flying both on the same day, but the FAA eventually stopped us from doing it. &nbsp;In their great and shining wisdom~<br><br>Boy oh boy the control feel is different! &nbsp;The 757&apos;s controls are a lot like the 727 and 747 control feel: &nbsp;Very heavy. &nbsp;Not so heavy that a small woman cannot fly the airplane, but WAY more than the power steering in the typical car. &nbsp;This in comparison to the 767, which is very light on the controls and frankly, to this day, feels overboosted to me. &nbsp;Think the steering on a 1970&apos;s Cadillac and you get the idea, almost video game. &nbsp;Remember now, the yoke will not spin in circles in an airliner, it moves about 60-80 degrees off of dead center at the most. &nbsp;I have never flown an Airbus product so I cannot comment on how they fly or feel, we have ancient A300&apos;s in the fleet and these have regular yokes instead of side sticks.<br><br>The thing pilots say is that the 727 would pass anything but a gas pump; &nbsp;That bastard was FAST~! &nbsp;You had to pull it back to keep it down to .84 mach, just like the 747. &nbsp;And the speed brakes were like barn doors and you could get down fast as well. &nbsp;But neither airplane likes going any higher than 33,000 feet. &nbsp;On the other hand, the 757 and 767 LOVE altitude, but can&apos;t get past .82 mach and even then they vastly prefer .78-.80.<br><br>797? &nbsp;I suspect it will be just like the 757, though it will be a composite single aisle narrow body with geared engines and a 787 cockpit. &nbsp;Airbus is starting work on the A320 replacement, so you can bet that Boeing is trying to find out where the folks in Toulouse are going before they take the plunge to <br><br>FINALLY<br><br>Kill the silly 737! &nbsp;They should have kept the 757 and ditched the problematic 737 a long time ago. &nbsp;They would be in way better shape if they had...

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  @brucebmendoza · 2 weeks ago

  The 727 was my very first plane I flew in. I sat in the middle of the jet, just ahead of the wings. All I can hear were the engines and feeling the 2G’s when we liftoff. For an 8 year old it was an &nbsp;awesome adventure. &nbsp;The Boeing 727 brought smaller economy countries into the jet age I feel. I remember seeing mostly 80 85% all 727’s at the airport in my mother’s country. &nbsp;So thank you Boring for creating the 727.

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  @hueyman624 · 2 weeks ago

  I worked on 727-200As at Delta back in 84. Fast forward to 2007, I scrapped 2 from Fed Ex. I also remember the eastern ones at ATL in 1991. They only had one set of engines. They would install them, fly the airplane to the desert, take the engines off, truck them back to ATL and install on another airplane and fly to the desert. They did that until all were in the desert and Delta eventually took over the Eastern ATL hangar. I was in the GSE business back then and we came to the bankruptcy sale and made out like a bandit. <br>The same period of time, Delta traded in all its DC-9s in really good shape to McDonald Douglas on new MD-88s. The trade ins were bought by Valuejet and they had super cheap fairs and competed with Delta, costing DL a bundle. It was a volatile &nbsp;time in the Airline industry. Its why we have affordable air fair today.

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  @krazmokramer · 2 weeks ago

  I grew up in Wichita. &nbsp;The 727 was the Corvette of commercial airplanes. &nbsp;And the Braniff solid rainbow colored 727s were gorgeous. &nbsp;The feeling of sinking back into the seat as the take-off run began was exhilarating. &nbsp;I will never forget that feeling. &nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY2pRkmhdPM&amp;t=42">0:42</a> &nbsp;Those 737 trains used to park across the street from my dental office on their way from Wichita to Renton.

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  @ianadams5872 · 11 days ago

  727 is like a classic car,long lasting easy to work on. We started installing hush kits to keep them going.

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  @waynestarnes5462 · 2 weeks ago

  I live by the airport. &nbsp;As a kid I would &nbsp;ride my bike out to the end of the runway about 300&apos; behind the 727s when they took off. I LOVED IT! They were loud, but no one who lived at the airport cared. You simply got used to it.

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  @RANDassociatesinc · 2 weeks ago

  Wow!!! This story reminded me that my very first flight was on an Eastern Airlines 727. Back when they were still brand new.

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  @ReasonablySane · 2 weeks ago

  I remember playing Softball at a field just north of Sea-tac airport in the early 80&apos;s. you could tell by the sound it made when a 727 took off above us. It was significantly louder than the newer aircraft. It was so loud we had to stop playing whenever one went over us on takeoff.

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  @dgrantgibson · 13 days ago

  I flew many times on PWA&apos;s B-727 CF-PXD from Edmonton to Resolute Bay and back in the early 1970&apos;s. &nbsp;Entered and deplaned out the back door! Also I was at the CYXD Edmonton Industrial Airport in 1966 when Wardair Ltd brand new B-727 CF-FUN landed from the factory Seattle. I got a picture on my browny camera! I was 11 years old at the time, everyone was welcome on the airport tarmac in front of the terminal building. Those were special days never to be repeated....

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  @bryceunit · 2 weeks ago

  727 was such a beautiful plane. &nbsp;My first plane I flew on. &nbsp;Dad liked Continental, old Continental. &nbsp;&quot;The proud bird with the golden tail&quot;. &nbsp;They seemed to have a lot of 727s.

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