Coffee and Crime Time: Orrin and Orson West

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  @gracieg518 · 4 years ago (edited)

  The first red flag about these adoptive parents are that they changed the boys' names...like they were property and not people. They weren't infants, they were 3 and 4 year olds with identities. Rest in peace Classic and Cincere.

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• CH

  @cherryblossom9472 · 4 years ago

  I “lost” my cat for 3-4 minutes. I was going crazy ugly crying and running outside screaming his name and had his snacks with me. He was Under the bed. I acted more scared than these two people! 🤦‍♀️

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• CR

  @crystalm2460 · 4 years ago

  its always suspicious to me when the alibis are little house on the prairie level wholesome activities. Dad chopping wood and mom wrapping Christmas presents

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• AP

  @AP-dc8tr · 4 years ago

  “I would burn the city down” as a mother, i felt that so hard.

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• BR

  @brettneygibbs9047 · 4 years ago

  Its horrifying that innocent children get stuck with awful people like this, wolves in sheep's clothing. Gut wrenching.

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• AU

  @AubreyWilkinsWursten · 4 years ago

  I suppose it's a minor point compared to the rest of this utterly bizarre story, but these kids were old enough to know their names. Even if you changed their last names after making them part of your family, why would you change their first names? That seems so unnecessarily confusing for children. This whole case is just baffling. HOW does this all happen?

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• BE

  @BethBelle1989 · 4 years ago

  I think the boys family wanted to visit for Christmas and they realized they didn't have a valid excuse for why the boys weren't around. That's the only reason they pretended they wandered off and reported them missing

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• MO

  @MorbidKat · 4 years ago (edited)

  I think Christmas was coming up and they couldn&apos;t hide that the boys were missing from extended family anymore. AND figured people would be too distracted by holidays to pay attention they way they did. They underestimated other people&apos;s empathy. RIP Classic and Cinsere <br>I feel so awful for the bio mom...

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  @mollyalves7602 · 4 years ago

  I have personal experience with CPS regarding a similar injury. My daughter attends a small in home daycare run by a childhood friend. She has had this daycare for over 20 years with no incident. About a year a ago, one of the little boys tripped over his brother and broke the younger brother&apos;s femur. It wasn&apos;t realized right away because the baby looked fine and was already a little fussy from colic. That night the leg was swollen, so the parents took him to CHKD. &nbsp; CPS was called. The daycare was shut down for 4 months. The CPS worker flat out accused my friend of lying and abuse despite no history. CPS wanted me to take my child to CHKD and get a full body scan- 27 x-rays for a two-year-old. At my expense. When I refused to subject my child, who was displaying no sign of injury, to all that radiation, they threatened to remove her from my custody. I offered to take her to my pediatrician, but was told &quot;no&quot;. I stood my ground, and in the end the daycare was allowed to reopen, but I can see how a parent with no resources could lose their child, or children, on the whim of a CPS worker. (Cue Stephanie, &quot;The system is broken!&quot;)

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• JA

  @jamiepatterson558 · 4 years ago

  I&apos;ve been hoping you&apos;d do this one!!!<br>As a former foster child turned foster parent, ultimately adopting my last 3 foster babies, this one is very, very close to my heart.

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• BR

  @Bryces_Pants · 4 years ago

  I got the feeling from the adoptive grandmother’s statement that she suspected the parents. &nbsp;The whole “God forgives you, come forward” sounds like how my mom used to shame me into coming clean. &nbsp; Did anyone else get the same vibe?

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• GL

  @glyncoco4407 · 4 years ago

  I hope the bio mom is able to file a wrongful death civil suit, this is BS. I&apos;ve heard she tried multiple times to get her kids back, she had a home, she had employment and they wouldn&apos;t call her back before they finalized adoption. If that&apos;s true, that makes this all worse.

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