Marvel Gods Explained

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  @God_oftheAbyss · 2 years ago (edited) · pinned

  Al Ewings Venom comic wrote that Knull and the other Kings in black are equal and opposite to the Beyonders,  so in my opinion Knull needs to be as high as the Beyonders on this list but I could be wrong I guess

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  @phothewin6019 · 2 years ago

  I wish Marvel (or comics in general) would officially establish a cosmic hierarchy that MUST be followed by all writers to mitigate inconsistencies and retcons.

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  @SuperRONDALE · 2 years ago

  Ya know I’m something of a god myself

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  @jg5004 · 2 years ago

  I still don’t like how they made a Knull in every universe. I liked the idea of him being a single being in all the multiverse.

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  @graduator14 · 2 years ago

  I've never seen the Living Tribunal and Rob in the same room. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

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  @harmonicartist · 2 years ago

  Beyond Omega Level: Rob’s Hype

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  @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache · 2 years ago

  I feel like Hickman and Ewing are either tag-teaming or getting into an arm wrestle with Marvel's cosmology as the battlefield.

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  @wytho3751 · 1 year ago

  The One Above All Except For The Ones He's Not Above.

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  @woodrobin · 2 years ago

  A few thoughts: &nbsp;<br> &nbsp;<br>1. &nbsp;Franklin Richards is definitely more powerful than Mad Jim Jaspers. &nbsp;Mad Jim was defeated when he was cast into a void universe in which there was no reality for him to manipulate. &nbsp;Franklin, on the other hand, has created universes. &nbsp;So, if you have one who can manipulate the structure of an existing universe and another who can create a universe out of his own imagination, it&apos;s not a close contest. &nbsp;<br> &nbsp;<br>2. &nbsp;In the Third Cosmos, where duality and conflict came into existence, Lifebringer One (the First Hero) fought the Anti-All -- in fact, they embodied everything in that cosmos. &nbsp;When (in part due to the interference of the Defenders) Lifebringer One defeated the Anti-All, it was fractured into many shards. &nbsp;All the beings of ultimate evil/nihility/oblivion, such as the Chaos King, Null, Oblivion, etc all derive from those shards of the Anti-All that scattered throughout time, space, and beyond.<br> &nbsp; &nbsp;<br>3. &nbsp;The Beyond in which the Beyonders dwell is the remnant of the Second Cosmos (also known as the First Multiverse). &nbsp;The Second Cosmos was the birthplace of change. &nbsp;It embraced everything new, all at once, and thus rushed headlong into the headiest, wildest new experience of all: &nbsp;All-Death. &nbsp;<br> &nbsp;<br>4. &nbsp;At the top of the Multiversal structure is the House of Ideas, from which the creative energies flow that are the basis of all matter, energy, time, space, events, people, etc in the Multiverse. &nbsp;At the open door of the House of Ideas, the One-Above-All sits, weaving the energies into patterns that give them structure. &nbsp;Beneath the OAA is the White Hot Room, where ideas become existence. &nbsp;What works is empowered, what does not burns and is reborn. &nbsp;So the Phoenix, at peak capability, is second only to the One-Above-All and the Living Tribunal (and then only when the Living Tribunal is acting directly as the agent of the OAA). &nbsp;The Phoenix is the force that changes what could be into what is, and what was into what may yet be.

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  @Jay_SGE · 2 years ago (edited)

  That’s always been a misconception because Oblivion has never been stated to be above TOAA. Im really glad Hickman cleared that up. Can’t wait to see what him Ewing and the rest cook up with the Inbetweenwer war or whatever cosmic war they’ve been building to since 2016

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  @fishnewt1331 · 2 years ago

  I personally would argue Phoenix equal to Oblivion, if not higher than it. It was stated to be the assurance of rebirth from non-existence and when it was effectively killed recently, it didn’t necessarily die. Rather it was more stuck in a state of inactivity and confusion. After it was fully destroyed, it became reborn again. There are also statements by the Phoenix that everything lives because it chooses to live. So long as it does not give in, then existence will continue. That would mean it is effectively defying Oblivion constantly to maintain existence.

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  @AifDaimon · 2 years ago

  Honestly, I feel like Knull, Chaos King and others like them are all facsimiles of Oblivion with different &quot;specialties&quot;

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