Vander: When Arcane Shows Good Intentions Aren't Enough

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  @daveslurkingaccount9778 · 4 years ago (edited)

  Vander’s final moments break me whenever I see it. He wakes up after the explosion, sees his boys and probably Vi were crushed and dead, and you can see him give up. Then Vi starts to cry, and you can see hope and desperation ignite in his eyes. That’s the moment that always breaks my composure. In that moment, he gives up on being a pacifist, he knew right then “If I don’t fight, Vi will die.” He shouts, in pain, he pushes the rubble off, and fights like a monster to beat another monster.<br>By far my favourite scene.

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• ST

  @Sturzfaktor2 · 4 years ago

  Vander&apos;s leadership over the Undercity also kept me thinking. He tried his best to keep everybody reasonably safe, but at the price that the status quo of poverty and unhealthy living conditions never would be overcome. Progress under such circumstances would be slow, over generations at best. In order to bring about a better life for everyone in the present, the system had to be challenged. But he also knew what an uprising of the Undercity had cost them last time, and it still had led to nothing. Some would have to give their lives for the potential betterment of others, which is what he asks Vi at the bridge: who are you willing to sacrifice. It&apos;s a predicament we can see in our real world as well.

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• BA

  @bandigustin1038 · 4 years ago

  If he in fact becomes Warwick, it would be the most tragic end. A man whose only wish was to keep other safe becoming a beast, a hunter that prays on his previous ideals

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• KA

  @Karanthaneos · 4 years ago

  Vander is to the undercity, what Heimerdinger was to Piltover. An idealist who cared for his people but ultimately didn&apos;t have what it took to bring actual change. Vander was so caught up in his own rhetoric that he allowed the people in the undercity to slowly bleed.<br><br>Which is fascinating, since that would mean that Silco is paralleled to Jayce, the more bold and brash, the one that would cause a ruckus but would give their all to bring progress to the places they lived in. And of course, it would be fitting for them to have their talk in the last episode, the two strongest forces against each other.<br><br>But in the end, it was Silco the one who had everything on the line, and the one who had everything to lose. The only real reason Piltover didn&apos;t crush the revolution was because Jayce didn&apos;t want to cause any more bloodshed. Now ir Ambessa was in charge, it would&apos;ve been a completely different story. Which might as well be what will happen if Mel does end up dying during Jinx&apos;s attack.

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• CR

  @craig5322 · 4 years ago

  Vander isn&apos;t a people pleaser. He is trying to avoid war. He believes that no one wins in war, and it&apos;s his job as a leader to do everything he can to protect them. Right or wrong, he believes that they must do anything they can to avoid it. The problem is that he can&apos;t accept that war is coming whether he likes it or not.

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• FR

  @FredrikHaugen · 4 years ago

  I see Vander as a wounded leader. A person whose deep wish to lift Zaun out of despair, become despaired himself when he&apos;s blinded by the consequences of his decisions. As he tries to tell Vi, as a leader, when you want to burn it down they will come with fuel. But his visions has been burned away by what he witnessed. As you say, Zaun under him whithers. Remember Powders greatest find in Jayces appartment, according to herself? Not the shiny blue crystals. But a pair of forgotten sandwiches. It is a world where you scrape together a living and many days go to bed hungry. People in such a situation clings to whatever and whomever gives you a glimpse of, or a shard of hope. However sharp and dangerous.<br>Enters Silco....

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• EM

  @emeraldmaster5388 · 4 years ago

  I feel that everyone with a good heart understands and relates to vander because all those people would have a hard time making different choices from him.

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• AD

  @Adonna2424 · 4 years ago

  I was like Vander until a year ago, my whole life was making others happy and on the way, I lost myself, who I am, what I like, what I dream for. Now, at 39, I have no idea who I am so I&apos;ve started with self care and reading/watching whatever pops up in the hope that something is triggered in me. Jobless and on the verge of losing everything, I&apos;m finally taking care of my failing health and understanding my trauma. It&apos;s a start but that little voice tells me I&apos;m too old and sick to try to dream. Everyday is hard but at least I have tomorrow. Thanks for sharing your story.

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• CA

  @CarringtonMorgan3342 · 4 years ago

  I think the main reason Vander was the way he was being leader of The Lanes is because he didn&apos;t want to become like Silco, not wanting to do literally anything necessary to get actual peace. I also loved his relationship with Grayson. Grayson knew Vander was the best person to deal with and like you said Grayson has a lot of respect for Vander(possibly Benzo as well). Unlike Silco Vander didn&apos;t really change the &quot;deal&quot;. <br><br>Vander will always be one of my favorite Arcane.

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• CA

  @CaspianMidnight · 4 years ago

  Something I just realized is when Grayson asks Vander to give a name he could have <b>easily</b> given up Silco and avoid basically all the following destruction. Just a sign that he truly regretted his betrayal to Silco and still considered him a member of the lanes &quot;we don&apos;t give up our own&quot;

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• JU

  @juniper1350 · 4 years ago

  he did his best and Vi is doing her best. they’re both doing their best and that’s what hurts so much. that’s what makes me cry.

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• MY

  @MyCarnageExtreme · 3 years ago

  Despite all of the grey area I still think Vander was right, he kept people safe, people just didn&apos;t realized. In the end he knew his limits and Undercity&apos;s limits.

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