Why the Dutch support colonialism

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  @ThePresentPast_ · 3 years ago (edited) · pinned

  Comment for mistakes and additional nuance. <br><br>When it comes to apologies, many people think individual Dutch are being asked to apologise for the slave trade. This is not the case. It is the Dutch government apologising. As representatives of the state that has existed for hundreds of years.<br><br>Portugal wasn&apos;t part of the yougov poll, so I unfortunately don&apos;t have data for that!<br><br>At <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeuSt8RIYIM&amp;t=160">02:40</a> I say the Netherlands was the first country to legalise abortion. This is false. It should have said, &apos;one of the first countries&apos;.

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  @KarlSnarks · 3 years ago (edited)

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeuSt8RIYIM&amp;t=467">7:47</a> For non-Dutch viewers, &apos;liberal&apos; in the Netherlands is mostly associated free markets (and corporate welfare), rather than social-liberalism.

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  @robto · 3 years ago (edited)

  Why wasn&apos;t Portugal included in the poll? That&apos;s odd, considering that country was one of the first, and last, European colonial powers to exist. And I would bet a million dollars that if the same poll was done on the Portuguese, up to 70% of the respondents would be &quot;proud of their former colonial empire&quot;.

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  @ToastieBRRRN · 3 years ago

  I think it comes from the perspective the Dutch saw themselves as the under dog when it comes to the age of colonialism. Like fighting for your Independence from Spain (the superpower at the time) and being able to rival bigger powers greater than themselves such as England and France. While make a success of it. <br><br>I think the fact you mentioned it as &quot;cherry picking&quot; the best bits is part of it because it&apos;s hard bitter pill to swallow. Many people rather be proud of something than be shameful it.

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  @topsnek4603 · 2 years ago

  The reason German colonial history isn&apos;t talked about much is because their colonial empire only really lasted 3 decades before their territories were seized during WW1. It was really the shortest lived colonial empire of any significant size.

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  @caioguimaraes-pq6vb · 3 years ago (edited)

  &quot;The highest number off ALL european colonial empires&quot;<br><br>Portugal after starting the discovery age, ruling the indic ocean and defeating the otomans various times but still not apearing in the map: bruhh

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  @yourineeven8457 · 3 years ago

  My grandmother who died a few weeks ago at 99 was born and spend her childhood while Indonesia was still a Dutch colony. It is all not that long ago as a lot of people think.

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  @x_griffin_x · 2 years ago

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeuSt8RIYIM&amp;t=160">2:40</a> Actually the Soviet Union was the first country to legalise abortion

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  @Lemoniest69 · 1 year ago

  My grandma lost both her parents when she was 9 years old in the battle of surabaya Indonesia 1945. She passed away last year, she often share her old story of how difficult to stay alive in the independence war of Indonesia.

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  @frank_a · 1 year ago

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeuSt8RIYIM&amp;t=58">0:58</a> he did not argue for a &quot;colonial mindset&quot;, but for a pioneering entrepreneurial mentality, using words (in context) like optimism, dynamism and looking beyond boundaries. But it is true he used the Dutch East India Company as a symbol of that mentality in a rhetorical way.

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  @leverage674 · 3 years ago (edited)

  Always find it funny how channels like these are dutch made, while only dutch people discuss the topic of the video in english together in de comments😂. (Im also dutch)

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  @Ruokos_Huba · 2 years ago

  The prime minister Balkende saying we need to go back to the VOC mentality also means going back to enterpreunership, not necesarilly slave trade. VoC ofcourse traded slaves, but had more of an emphasis on transporting spices rather than enslaving local population and selling them (Ofcourse, they did that as well, but I don&apos;t think it was goal number 1 of the VoC)

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