Does Church History Lead to Catholicism? (Joe Heschmeyer & Dr. Gavin Ortlund)

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  @Dddezzz · 5 years ago

  I think a conversation between Dr. Ortlund  and Steve Ray would be fascinating since Steve Ray is a Catholic convert from the Baptist tradition

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• AC

  @actsapologist1991 · 5 years ago

  The winner shall be determined by whoever has the most books in background.  Bonus points if the shelves are mahogany.

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• EV

  @evavanvollenhoven1782 · 5 years ago

  May the Holy Spirit reveal the truth to all men of good will 🙂

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  @Anna_Marie_Music · 5 years ago

  Wow, Austen, I can't believe you're only in your early 20s and you're out here moderating such big convos such as these!! Every time I come back to your channel, I'm always so impressed. Keep up the good work!

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• MI

  @michaelbaumert4501 · 5 years ago (edited)

  I’m around the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIB5YLHNqAE&amp;t=4740">1:19:00</a> mark and a key presupposition that is going unrecognized in this discussion is how fundamentally incarnational do you recognize Christianity to be? After 20 years raised as a Catholic and then 20 years spent thereafter as a Protestant (and now a Catholic revert), probably the most distinctive aspect between Catholic and Protestant understanding of ecclesial structure, dogmatics, liturgy, sacramental theology, worship, etc. is the level to which you accept a baseline necessity of an incarnational ontology for Christianity. Put another way, just how “physical” is Christianity created to be? <br><br>I have realized a treasure trove of Church history, insight of the patristics and saints through the ages, beauty in liturgy, partaking in the Eucharist and a sense of homecoming all over the world in any Catholic parish, but the most fundamental change that I completely unexpected (but has been the most inspiring) is the physicality of all Christian worship as truly a fulfillment of OT Jewish temple worship. The spaces, smells, tastes, oils, elements, statues, icons, kneeling, crossing, prostrating, Eucharistic adoration, prayer ropes and rosary, prayer cards... I am convinced that the Incarnation was not just an event showing how salvation history came to a head, but also a profound insight into just how physical WE are as created beings. In short, I’ve come to love that Christianity is not only mystical, emotional and intellectual, it is deeply and inescapably physical. <br><br>Thanks to all participants for this great discussion!

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  @2555Edu · 5 years ago

  Dr. Gavin is a breath of fresh air, usually protestants that &quot;study history&quot; don&apos;t study history at all, they continue with their misconceptions in history, theology and philosophy, as a catholic myself I gotta say, Dr. Gavin is different, may more protestants be like him

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• SA

  @saintmosesmedia9547 · 5 years ago (edited)

  As an Orthodox Christian who converted to orthodoxy from Catholicism, who converted to Catholicism from Protestantism, who now is considering coming back to Catholicism- your Chanel is a huge blessing to me right now.

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  @salzapata2713 · 11 months ago

  Does Church history lead into Catholicism?<br><br>Remember the question!<br>The answer is a BIG FAT &quot;YES&quot;!!!

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• JW

  @jwright7948 · 5 years ago

  I so appreciated this dialogue! I ordered so many of the books recommended on this channel to read myself, but with 6 children to care for and a farm to help work, reading time is extremely limited. Listening to these authors while folding the laundry and getting to learn from both faith traditions is such a blessing. Thank you to all. I hope they all come back again.

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  @ColleenB10 · 5 years ago

  If you aren’t a Patreon, now is the time! &nbsp;This was SO good! They said they plan to do more in the future! &nbsp;<br>This was SO good!

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  @danim2897 · 5 years ago (edited)

  Awesome conversation. I’m Catholic and accept and are convinced in the validity and authority of the church and accept all of its dogmas. Although I do not agree with Protestantism, the guest’s explanations of his beliefs helped me understand their stance.

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  @mikkis668 · 5 years ago

  This was amazing. Thank you to the four of you.<br>For me personally, this was a healing experience 🙏. And I think the polite and humble way to argument and disagree, was a hugh testimony... (Imagine if Rep. and Dem. Politicians discussed like this)<br><br>More of this. God bless you all

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