If the Soviets and the West went to war in 1945 - who would have won?

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  @matthewskudzienski888 · 4 days ago (edited)

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• 7A

  @7acersadogandakubota · 6 days ago (edited)

  The allies would have absolutely overran Russia like a freight train, it would have been a two front war and the allies would have cut off all USSR manufacturing because of their strategic bombers coming into Russia in both directions. Also the allies could have easily invaded the USSR remember Germany moved on horse back the allies moved on trucks and planes and had forklifts where Germany moved everything by hand. Russia only survived the German onslaught because allies funneled in raw material and war machines. They would have been cut off from all that aid at this point and their oil fields bombed out of existence. The us however was completely out of reach for Russia and having control of the seas middle east and Africa the us had unlimited resources for manufacturing and had all of Japan's remaining manufacturing capabilities as well. Remember the allies don't have to go for a quick victory like Germany did they simply could have ran a blockade and starved the USSR into submission at the very least. While I like what you did come up with the oversight leave this video flawed but probably more inline with what the allies knew in 1945 vs what we know now.

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  @sensei-zp9284 · 8 days ago

  Lets not forget that the soviets already lost up tl 25 mil ppl. Imagine the urss population learning than they now have to keep fighting more world powers. By 1947 stalin would be killed by a bomb o a secret agent, as the soviets would be unwilling to keep fighting

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• GA

  @garethmurtagh · 8 days ago

  Don’t forget get that if this lasts into 1947 it gets caught up in probably the most severe winter Europe experienced in the 20th Century. Britain suffered severe fuel shortages due to a combination of low production in the mines and rail capacity was adversely affected by snow blocking lines…

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• JA

  @jamesb4789 · 9 days ago

  In April 1945, the Red Army was not capable of maintaining itself in the west at full strength. &nbsp;They were very dependent on American aid. &nbsp;Planes, tanks, trucks and more trucks, were significant, but it was the basics that made them vulnerable. &nbsp;80% of all mess kits were American. &nbsp;40% of rations, 90% of boots, 60% of uniforms, virtually all medical supplies and 100% of field hospitals. &nbsp;The list goes on. &nbsp;A tell is look at the pictures of the Soviet troops in uniform in 1940 and then compare to the troops parading at the end of hte war in Berlin. &nbsp;The 1945 uniforms were much better made. &nbsp;When the US cut lend lease in May 1945, Stalin refused to attack the Japanese until it was restored. &nbsp;Stalin KNEW he could not support his own army. &nbsp;And as rapid as the USA drew down the troops, the USSR did it as well. &nbsp;<br>Stalin was not stupid and knew far more about Britain&apos;s and the USA&apos;s strength and weakness than the Germans ever did. &nbsp; He understood the US economy had finally hit close to full mobilization in 1944 and it dwarfed the USSR. &nbsp;The only area where the Soviets had a material advantage was in their tanks, but that would have been meaningless &nbsp;with the vast USAF. &nbsp; &nbsp;You can see that Stalin understood reality &nbsp;before the German surrender. &nbsp;He was actually surprised the West withdrew to the agreed occupation borders without demanding anything. &nbsp;But no where in Europe did he try to grab extra territories. &nbsp;Britain howled over the installation of soviet puppets across Europe, but the Americans let it go. &nbsp;Stalin &nbsp;in May 1945 was sitting on the biggest Russian empire of all history and knew he would be lucky to consolidate it. &nbsp; &nbsp;Stalin was NEVER &nbsp;going to risk war.<br><br>If it happened, though, it is likely they would have grabbed denmark, germany, Holland &nbsp;but been held at the Rhine. &nbsp;It would have taken weeks to return the forces and planes, but once the air power was in place, they would have decimated the Soviet logistics. &nbsp;If anything, it would have accelerated the nukes on Japan to end that war. &nbsp;The forces intended to invade Japan would have been likely to have been targeted to attack the Soviet far east. &nbsp; In 1946, it is likely theWest would have rolled the Soviets back to the 1940 Russian border in Europe. &nbsp;At that point, the American public would accept a deal. &nbsp;<br><br>A huge change though is it is likely the US would have committed lare forces to crush the Chinese CCP and end the chinese civil war in the USA&apos;s favor. &nbsp;Moa without Soviet support would never have won. &nbsp;I think it likely the US would have been forced to help the &nbsp;British Empire &nbsp;continue its grip &nbsp;because of he need for stability. &nbsp; &nbsp;Stalin would still have survived. &nbsp;There would still have beena smaller cold war, but I think there would have been no NATO and the Americans would have clashed with Europe and eventually had a conflict.

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  @georgequalls5043 · 9 days ago

  The US had the bomb and had just used it.

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• TH

  @thesypa · 9 days ago

  Glory to the USSR!

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• ZI

  @Zirkobi · 9 days ago

  This wouldn&apos;t have been an issue for the Western Allies. They supplied Stalin with just about everything, especially in terms of logistics, raw materials, fuel and more through the lend-lease act. So, if that stopped the USSR might have been able to keep production going for some time but not the infrastructure to maintain it all and so they would grind to a halt pretty quickly.

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  @chrismaxny4066 · 11 days ago

  With American air power the Soviets would have been hard pressed to carry out any offensives. &nbsp;The new P51 fighters would have devastated the Russian fighters and the bombers would have had no opposition destroying supply depots and artillery. &nbsp;An armored Soviet advance would have been suicidal with no air cover.

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• FR

  @Frogman1943 · 12 days ago (edited)

  the west would have rearmed the germans and gone all the way to Moscow. &nbsp;The Russians over-extended and relied on western assistance to continue fighting. &nbsp;They would have been strategically bombed into submission where the tanks were being produced and tactically bombed on the front since the west had air superiority. &nbsp;To add the final blow, the good usa would just nuke moscow if the soviet tanks and infantry kept coming.

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• JA

  @jake1776 · 2 weeks ago

  The CIA / OSS obviously murdered Patton

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• JA

  @jake1776 · 2 weeks ago

  America had nukes and should have made Moscow disappear.

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