Operation C - What Happens if the two fleets clash?

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  @Drachinifel · 2 years ago · pinned

  Pinned post for Q&A :)

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• AU

  @augustosolari7721 · 2 years ago

  A large share of the content about the WW2 tends to revolve around the question "What will Nagumo do?"

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• JA

  @Jankapotamus1 · 2 years ago

  I think you may have made a critical error in your assumption that Warspite would come out on the losing end of a tussle with the Kongos. Did you remember to take into consideration her plot armor?

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  @jeffmiddleton8469 · 2 years ago

  My grandfather, Cyril &quot;Charlie &quot; Carr was on the Royal Sovereign at this time. He said he was very happy they didn&apos;t run into the Japanese, he knew they didn&apos;t stand a chance if things got serious. The R&apos;s needed a lot to bring them up to speed. As he put it they &nbsp;&quot;hid at the Andaman Islands &quot; and then got out of the way of danger asap.<br>Grandad gave me a book he found on the attack on Sri Lanka (Ceylon)<br>&quot;The most dangerous moment &quot;.<br>A really informative book on the attack, I still have the copy he gave me 45 years ago. <br>As he handed the book to me he said &quot;I&apos;m in that!&quot;.<br>I could hear the price in his voice. <br>He&apos;s been gone 21 years this year. <br>Gee I miss him.

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• BK

  @bkjeong4302 · 2 years ago

  What I’m really interested is in Somerville managing to get in that radar-equipped Swordfish night strike on the bulk of the Kido Butai, or Nagumo finding Addu Atoll right when the bulk of the Eastern Fleet is there…

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• TO

  @tomriley5790 · 2 years ago

  &quot;Who the heck is going to come out standing at the end of that?&quot; Why am I betting Warspite&apos;s rudder jams dodging a torpedo and leading to a lucky salvo that knocks out a Kongo....

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• RE

  @rebelsqurl8959 · 2 years ago

  For anyone who has the computer game &quot;Carrier Battles 4 Guadalcanal&quot;, there is an Operation C scenario as a DLC for wargamers to try to see what happens in all of what&apos;s been discussed in this video. (NOTE: This is not intended as an endorsement or promotion of the game, but merely as an FYI for those who might be interested.)

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• MH

  @mhmt1453 · 2 years ago

  Just think of the implications if Warspite caught Hiryu and Soryu; so many future battles (or battles that wouldn’t happen) would be impacted. Maybe Coral Sea doesn’t happen, and now the U.S. Navy has both Lexington, and a very undamaged Yorktown available. The Doolittle Raid would still go off, but would Yamamoto risk trying to ambush now four American fleet carriers with only four of his own? How would the IJN respond to the Guadalcanal invasion with potentially two American carriers at large (and maybe three if you count Wasp and Saratoga in the theater) assuming Fletcher has the same covering force? The ripple effects are mesmerizing.

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• QU

  @quietman1972 · 2 years ago

  Nagumo getting caught out by a need to swap munitions... where have I heard that before... 😊

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• JO

  @JohnSmith-jj2yd · 2 years ago (edited)

  This has always been one of the most interesting counter-factuals for me, especially as the very plausible scenario of losing at least one of Carrier Div 2s ships, if not both, would have huge impacts on the course of the Pacific war; whether the Japanese would even attempt the post-Doolittle raid operations in the Solomons &amp; New Guinea, Midway and the Aleutians go up in the air, or if they do they would be very different. <br>It&apos;s an unfortunate artefact of history that the Indian Ocean raid is just a minor footnote in the &apos;Japanese wiping the floor with everyone December 1941-May 1942 Edition&apos;, when it potentially could have ended as a mini-midway.

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  @tonyjanney1654 · 2 years ago

  Very informative. The actions that take place between the Royal Navy and IJN tend to get lost between Pearl Harbor and Coral Sea, and over shadowed by Midway. <br><br>If you ever find the time for an another alternative history, I think a great &quot;what if&quot; would be: what if Tirpitz had actually made a run for PQ-13 in Operation Rosselsprung and risked facing Duke of York and Washington.

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• HE

  @Hemimike426 · 2 years ago

  😂 Almost a whole hour of &quot;How many fleets can Warspite choke out in a single war and why no one was safe from the British&quot;

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