They Told Runners "Never Train Here" But They Were SO Wrong.
26K views · Sep 30, 2026 · Sports
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@andrewspencer5220 · 14 hours ago
There is so much technical advice. I've come full circle and returned to running on Perceived Effort.
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@ova_workd_down_unda_payd4192 · 15 hours ago
I'm also a firm believer that if your not training 4 or more times a week and putting a larger volume of k's in per week doing predominantly zone 2 training has no where near as much impact on your fitness as zone 3 does.
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@jaydemelo529 · 16 hours ago
I am so unfit currently that a massive part of even my "easy" training is in zone 3...great news! ;)
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@searaph · 15 hours ago
When I was in uni studying kinesiology I remember profs speaking with us about the benefits of building some lactate to improve the body's ability to shuttle and remove it, as well as the mental side of things. Weird to see things changing again and again.
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@El_jefe_bruv · 17 hours ago
When I was a kid, eggs were bad. Then they were good, then bad, and now good again. Same with butter: good, bad, good. <br><br>Never go with the fad, just enjoy the process and listen to your body on the day.
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@cenk_kaptan · 9 hours ago
45 years old here. After smoking for 20 years, I quit 6 years ago, and 3.5 years ago I started running, 5k and 10k. Instead of running randomly, I decided to set up a training plan, mostly Zone 2 with a few intervals, just like you mentioned in the video, two big problems came up: first, I don’t have enough time to run long enough for Zone 2 to be effective; second, I quickly got injured for 3–4 months. I recovered and kept going, but even though my endurance improved, I didn’t make much progress. During all this time I tried to avoid Zone 3, even though that’s where I enjoyed running the most. Earlier this year I decided to run in Zone 3 just for fun and ignored the rest (this is not an advice). Since then, my weekly km has increased, my enjoyment has grown, my endurance has improved a lot, and my times have gotten faster. Five months ago I ran a half marathon, and I’m almost sure I’ll set a new PB in my next 10k. There’s no single recipe for everyone—running should be enjoyable for beginners like me. If it’s fun and not injurious, it becomes sustainable.
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@MattRose30000 · 17 hours ago (edited)
Can confirm. After a lab test (HR and lactate) my "true" zone 2 upper limit was 10 BPM higher than Garmin's estimate. That's also where I started to care about lactate equilibrium, which massively helped me to run marathons more consistently. All my recent PBs had negative splits.
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@Cris_Luiz · 10 hours ago
Wow...Didn't see this one coming... Changes things quite a bit. Thanks for sharing!
@julie99nl · 17 hours ago
Great video Ben 👍
@MrZurvion · 13 hours ago
Where was this video 4 years ago!!! I was so confused about the heart rate people were telling me I should be running at, and my actual heart rate. Took me long time to figure out that zones are VERY individual, and establish my actual ranges - things made so much more sense then.
@iulius951 · 13 hours ago
I have come to the same conclusion. I used to train mostly in what is called zone 3 (with some 4). The Garmin zone I don't really look at, BTW. Then I started getting to do Zone 2, but honestly I don't see that improving my times, it only serves to give you mental endurance for longer runs. I have switched back to mostly zone 3, as I used to.
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@danielmath1226 · 13 hours ago
I can resonate with the mechanical durability part so much. I've been running almost the entire year in either low zone 2 or threshold with 100 km weeks. Despite being able to nail my threshold sessions (like 3x10 or 6x5), even if I run just a touch faster than usual zone 2 (not even MP, rather tempo-ish), I already feel such a mechanical fatigue that makes me want to stop, even though my breathing is still absolutely relaxed. I feel like having a strict 80/20 distribution with many zone 2 runs just increases the gap between the feeling of easy and hard running over time for me, and I forget how to run a controlled fast pace.
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