The Craft is 90s Witch Perfection

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  @OpsReitia · 1 year ago · pinned

  So Pat Devin, the Pagan/Wiccan witch consultant thought that inventing a fictional deity would be innocuous or even ineffectual? That makes no magical sense. <br><br>A Chaos Magick paradigm helps understand what happened both within the movie and during shooting much better. Things not being real does not mean they cannot have an effect on reality. All of them can and in fact often do. This is exactly why we all watch movies! If you create a powerful idea, it doesn&apos;t matter that it is fictional, it still has a lot of power over people&apos;s suggestibility, perception of reality, and can have a deep emotional impact, especially in a non-ordinary context. <br><br>In this case, Devin even associated certain real characteristics of actual deities/entities to Manon, even if she probably did this inadvertently. As you say, there are similarities in name with Manannan/Manawydan Mac Llyr, but also Nancy&apos;s description as a force that was there even before God and the Devil, encompassing all nature... That&apos;s almost literally Crowley&apos;s idea of an entity he called &quot;The Bornless One&quot; and I think Manon, despite having a different name, fits the bill for the Bornless One quite well. The name remains a superficial trait and when you look at the entity&apos;s actual properties, they are very fricking powerful. <br><br>You can suffer PTSD from frightening hallucinations, you can make yourself sick by imagining that you are sick and fearing sickness obsessively, and teenagers have actually killed each other in fear of a fictional character (Slenderman).... Just like any artistic creation, once you create it and put it out in the world, it is not under your control anymore, and your idea can interact with reality and people&apos;s suggestibility in unpredictable ways. I think the consultant was a bit naive to think just making up a deity would avoid that happening. <br><br>As if any deities were &quot;real&quot; in the first place. All are real in our minds, whether they were imagined 3000 years ago or yesterday. We just tend to invest more power on the ones that are older, but it is easy for newer ideas and beliefs, even outside of religious contexts, to affect us, because most of what we can make up already has traits or aspects of something that existed before. <br><br>A magician needs to become as knowledgeable as possible about various subjects, not just magic: from sciences and psychology to art, philosophy and theology. Consider their magical belilefs against them. Challenge their beloved ideas about magic, etc. And possess a complex and nuanced view of reality and the human mind. Contrary to popular belief, you need a lot of critical skills and skepticism. Unfortunately, the magical world is plagued with persons that don&apos;t possess these qualities and even actively suppress them in themselves because they think they are opposed to magical ability and will stifle their creativity, intuition, etc. Nothing further from the truth. That is why we have a chalice, a wand, a pentacle and A DAGGER. That&apos;s what the dagger represents. <br><br>A knowledgeable magical practitioner would have been aware of Manannan, the Bornless One, and whatever other elements have gone into this fictional entity. Also of Mabon, another deity with a similar name. Hell, &quot;Manon&quot; is a common French name lol, how did she not know that? Not sure how she wasn&apos;t aware of all this, but it sounds like she didn&apos;t do much research. You need to acquire as much culture as you can to be really good at this (to be clear, it can be an oral culture, it can be a culture that takes a form different from Western ideas of what represents learning...). Just reading a lot of books about Wicca and believing literally everything they say won&apos;t do. That is superstition, not spirituality.<br><br>A good adept would have been ready to expect weird things happening and reassuring the crew beforehand that this is a normal effect of the cocktail of emotions and the power of imagination and words that rituals and performances unleash. She would be ready to perform a banishing or grounding and relaxing exercises with the crew if they get freaked out. To be fair, she probably thought on her feet and did banishings/groundings at the time, but the fact that she didn&apos;t plan for it is sus. Creating a thought form and then acting surprised that weird things are happening lol. But yes, the world of the occult is full of people with very simplistic and literal views of magical powers and deities. Superficial New Agey beliefs, individualistic capitalist ideology, consumerism, and the dumbing down of culture since the last century have considerably watered down these practices. &nbsp;<br><br>If somebody knows more about what the consultant actually did and if she in any way was aware of any this, let me know. Happy to be corrected if I&apos;m wrong about her. I still think she did a pretty good job with respect to most of the other magical elements of the film, I&apos;m just zooming in on Zane&apos;s question.

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  @endorkugo · 1 year ago

  i never understood why they never showed rochelle&apos;s back story. the other 3 had some backstory so you know about them. rochelle was just &quot;the black friend&quot; who happened to be an important part of the 4 corners lol

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  @magnusbruxo.794 · 1 year ago (edited)

  One small fact check. Unfortunately, Fairuza Balk has come out and shut down the rumors of her association with wicca and witchcraft. She did a lot of research and helped a store stay in business but as of now does not identify with witchcraft. Rachel True however is an intuitive tarot reader and even gave a reading to billie eilish which you can find on youtube. She also has stated she practices practical magick.

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  @FuzzyKayna · 1 year ago (edited)

  I think binding Nancy was a pretty kind option honestly. At this point she&apos;s killed two people and was actively trying kill Sarah and she didn&apos;t want her help. I don&apos;t think the binding itself made her crazy either. She was already way out over that ledge and the loss of the power she had so relied on left her unable to cope. At that point it was her whole identity and and she couldn&apos;t accept not having it. <br><br>But yeah, Rochelle got short changed as hell.

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  @Jays6926 · 1 year ago

  I went to a gay bar with friends and the bartender said, “ watch out for the weirdos,” without a pause I said, “ we are the weirdos mister.” He laughed and got the reference. 😂 I love how canon The Craft is to gay people.

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  @Shrikechedelik · 1 year ago

  more than poverty (which did play a significant role, and was what was touched on in the movie) I think that Nancy&apos;s real trauma was neglect/abuse. <br><br>especially when she says that &quot;manon is in me. I&apos;m his daughter now&quot; and the way she writhes between a father type image to an intimate/sexual one with the spirit she invokes, reads as attachment issues. <br>it&apos;s insinuated that her mom is a sex worker, or at least has had sort of a revolving door of men in and out of her life/Nancy&apos;s childhood. &nbsp;<br><br>her mom is the cookie cutter of the kind of betrayal daughters can receive from their mothers, fawning over bad men, but being best girl friends with Nancy when it&apos;s just the two of them. <br><br>throughout the movie, her focus/dialogue is almost always about being betrayed/abandoned/used &quot; just like everyone always does&quot;<br><br>🖤🖤🖤<br>love this movie and love your channel!!!

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  @chelseybrown2334 · 1 year ago

  LIGHT AS A FEATHER STIFF AS A BOARD! And “YOU DONT EVEN EXIST TO ME!” Are so iconic ugh

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  @SPMunny · 1 year ago

  The craft right after your heathers video???? You’re really out here for the weird lesbians in your audience 💖💖💖

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  @ChristaLeah · 1 year ago (edited)

  The Craft is one of my all time favorites! Rachel True made my entire black girl witchy media loving childhood!! 😭💗🔮

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  @beryberyspooky · 1 year ago

  I had not considered the craft as a metaphor for women wanting to “too much”. Cause in my mind the power comes from the women, and there are ways to achieve what you want without hurting others to get it. To me that’s one of the big lessons: “Nothing makes everything all better again.” Balance is necessary and doing no harm to others.

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  @xLadyRaine · 1 year ago

  the fucking wig has me levitating. it’s sickening we didn’t get a bob for charlie and the chocolate factory.

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  @patiencem3928 · 1 year ago

  Nancy getting a second chance would take a lot of trust, time, and energy for the girls (not to mention herself) to really understand and adapt. Her being in the mental asylum and gradually gaining her mind would be the first test into a potential second chance.

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