WWII Air Force Expert Rates 8 Dogfights In Movies | How Real Is It? | Insider

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  @-Zevin- · 2 years ago (edited)

  The part in Red tails too with the ME262 shooting the aircraft is honestly hilarious, because clearly the people doing that scene had no idea what the ME262 actually shot, clearly assumed they were small caliber machine guns.... apparently didn't even use Wikipedia...  They were not little machine guns, those 4 guns in the nose were each 30mm autocannons shooting explosive cannon shells getting hit by a single shell was like getting hit by a grenade. Those 30mm often tore smaller fighter aircraft apart blowing off wings or the entire tail, Devastating weapon, great for taking down massive 4 engine bombers...  which makes it all the more absurd when it shoots at them like it's shooting airsoft bb.

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• AN

  @AnthonyWallace-y6n · 1 year ago

  Michael Caine played a squadron leader in "The Battle of Britain" and then about 50 years later voiced the unseen lead pilot telling the other Spitfires to check their fuel in "Dunkirk."

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• JE

  @jeromedavies2408 · 2 years ago

  The Battle of Britain was lucky enough to have combatants from both sides as advisors.<br><br>From Wikipedia:<br>&quot;The film was notable for its attempt to accurately portray the role of the Germans, with participants in the battle including Group Captain Tom Gleave, Wing Commander Robert Stanford Tuck, Squadron Leader Bolesław Drobiński and Luftwaffe Generalleutnant Adolf Galland involved as consultants.[3] During the war, Drobiński had heavily damaged Galland&apos;s plane and forced him into a crash-landing.[4]&quot;

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• RA

  @RandomStuffVG · 3 years ago

  I love how in Red Tails a human being hit by 30mm rounds apparently is like being shot with a small calibre pistol.

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• AN

  @antonego9581 · 3 years ago

  the Dunkirk plane scenes were absolutely mindblowing in IMAX

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• EL

  @elrockerchido · 2 years ago

  Red tails send my 💩 movie standards to the Mariana trench. Dude survived a barraga of cannon fire like 50cent lmao

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• MR

  @mrquirky3626 · 3 years ago

  My favourite thing about the Dunkirk dogfights was the sound design. &nbsp;I had seen a lot of dogfights before that movie but the clear sounds of the Spitfire&apos;s engine and air frame constantly straining against every turn and maneuver was something really new that I hadn&apos;t heard before in a battle scene.

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• SC

  @ScottStathis · 3 years ago

  It&apos;s amazing how &quot;The Battle of Britian&quot; was made in 1969 and is still one of the best movies at showing aerial combat. Even with all our technology today, sometimes realism requires reality to make it work.

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• JO

  @johnduffy8532 · 2 years ago

  One aspect of BOB that has contributed to a misunderstanding of the RAF was the accents. Movies have give us the impression that British fighter pilots were middle class and spoke &quot;the king&apos;s&quot; English, when in fact all levels of British society were represented. So Birmingham, Cockney, Liverpool, Surry accents and the like would&apos;ve been more common than the films represented.

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• KA

  @kazrab8894 · 3 years ago

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VDeLnOkcs8&amp;t=661">11:01</a> The fact that in red tails, they added a Stuka siren to the Me 262s, makes me want to laugh, and cry at the same time.

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• KO

  @KokkiePiet · 3 years ago

  Totally agree, Battle of Britain is on a different level. It’s like a ballet with planes, no cgi, real planes in the sky

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  @nanomage · 2 years ago

  Mr. Ziemann is absolutely correct about the non-existence of P-51&apos;s in US combat operations in 1942, they didn&apos;t enter combat operation until may of &apos;44 after the initial US doctrine of self defending bombers was deemed a failure. Early bomber escorts of &apos;44 used P-38&apos;s and P-47&apos;s but the Mustang came to dominate the escort duty by the end of 1944. However the P-51 was in combat operation before the US started using them, the British bought hundreds of them through he cash-and-carry and lend lease programs throughout the war, the first 50 of which began flying for the RAF in january of 1942.

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