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Timeline Heresy: The Pact and the Night's Watch - A Song of Ice and Fire

255K views · Aug 9, 2023 · Entertainment

David Lightbringer

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@thedornishmanswife3712 · 3 years ago
A westerosi wedding without at least 52 deaths is considered a dull affair
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@666thebeast4 · 3 years ago
imagine writing a book in the nineties then having some stoner in 2023 figuring out your whole narrative through symbolism. Thank you David, Thank You Internet
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@Eamonntargaryen · 3 years ago
I’m so deep into your theories that any other speculation seems like the heresy to me
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@hanesben · 3 years ago (edited)
Legends of Garth the Green's breeding prowess also support a "bottleneck" hypothesis. He was probably just some dude who laid mad pipe at the right time, weak pullout game, and next thing he knew he was most people's grandpa.
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@Skooby59 · 3 years ago
I know it might be dumb, but i’m so happy my man’s got a sponsor and an in-video ad
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@AskMia411 · 3 years ago
Interesting thing from the hammer of the waters video, you made an off hand joke about the children using weirwood roots to cause things to collapse, and while it was a joke, it got me thinking of the real world phenomenon of “liquefaction” that occurs in earthquakes, where the vibrations hit a certain frequency and the ground turns into quicksand essentially. The descriptions of moat cailin look like the aftermath of liquefaction, everything is sunk into the ground,  some structures more affected than others. The destruction of real world Port Royal is a perfect example of what happens to a town and fort when liquefaction occurs. Buildings that survived are tilted and leaning, others crumbled into rubble. And, like moat cailin, the town was flooded by a tsunami in the aftermath of the earthquake. Just something I thought you’d find interesting, given this “disaster hunters” series you’re working on! Thank you for putting out such interesting, well produced content! My ADHD thanks you!
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@WilliamFarge · 3 years ago
Arya IV is for me one of the most important chapters in ASOIAF. Gendry talked to Arya (dressed as COTF and named Squirrel by Greenbeard). The Hammer of the Waters = the Smith figure = the magician "He won't remember me, but he used to come to our forge." The Smallwood forge had not been used in some time, though the smith had hung his tools neatly on the wall. Gendry lit a candle and set it on the anvil while he took down a pair of tongs. "My master always scolded him about his flaming swords. It was no way to treat good steel, he'd say, but this Thoros never used good steel. He'd just dip some cheap sword in wildfire and set it alight. It was only an alchemist's trick, my master said, but it scared the horses and some of the greener knights." She screwed up her face, trying to remember if her father had ever talked about Thoros. "He isn't very priestly, is he?" "No," Gendry admitted. "Master Mott said Thoros could outdrink even King Robert. They were pease in a pod, he told me, both gluttons and sots." "You shouldn't call the king a sot." Maybe King Robert had drunk a lot, but he'd been her father's friend. "I was talking about Thoros." Gendry reached out with the tongs as if to pinch her face, but Arya swatted them away. "He liked feasts and tourneys, that was why King Robert was so fond of him. And this Thoros was brave. When the walls of Pyke crashed down, he was the first through the breach. He fought with one of his flaming swords, setting ironmen afire with every slash." "I wish I had a flaming sword." Arya could think of lots of people she'd like to set on fire. "It's only a trick, I told you. The wildfire ruins the steel. My master sold Thoros a new sword after every tourney. Every time they would have a fight about the price." Gendry hung the tongs back up and took down the heavy hammer. "Master Mott said it was time I made my first longsword. He gave me a sweet piece of steel, and I knew just how I wanted to shape the blade. Only Yoren came, and took me away for the Night's Watch." "You can still make swords if you want," said Arya. "You can make them for my brother Robb when we get to Riverrun." "Riverrun." Gendry put the hammer down and looked at her. "You look different now. Like a proper little girl." "I look like an oak tree, with all these stupid acorns."
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@red-foot-band · 3 years ago
Vids like this make me convinced that Jon's ultimate purpose is to somehow revitalize the weirwood net for a higher purpose. So many of the figures we remember from early ages are egocentric and hubristic, as you said. They used their power (ie - knowledge of green magic) to further their own ends. The true heroes -- the sleepers who were sacrificed to become the trees actually saved humanity, but only the trees remember. Men forget. But Jon is heavily foreshadowed to sacrifice everything to save the world.
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@lutilda · 3 years ago
One connection I just thought of and haven't seen anyone else talk about: The weird seasons that Planetos has. The seasons changing in length is more than just "odd". Seasons on a planet are created by the tilt of the planet's axis. Compared to its orbit around its sun. Planets that rotate on a 90° axis have no seasons. For Planetos to have seasons that change in length means that the tilt of its axis is changing continually. (Plus the long night happening when the sun is blocked out). A theory is that Earth got its axis tilt when we were hit by something big and the moon was formed. So, what if Planetos had normal seasons (a stable axis) until the meteor hit, caused the long night, AND sent the planet's axis to "wobble" as it tries to eventually settle again.
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@emknight84 · 2 years ago
Not all the first men failed against the andals. The north under Theon Stark beat them back at the battle of the weeping water.
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@OctopusWithNoFriends · 3 years ago
The Stag King's hammer that slammed into the heart of the Dragon Prince in the waters of the Trimark... A reflection of the Hammer of the Waters that the Children of the Forest drove into the heartlands to end the war. Both sent the world further into darkness and war, and ended the reign of the current monarchy. Literally changing the landscape, shaping the future... Praise Garth!
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@magnusnilsson1962 · 3 years ago
I keep returning to the thoughts that the Hammer was what created the difference between the weirwoods in Westeros and the darkened twisted version east of the impact site. Either the Hammer was used intentionally to prevent some corruption within the weirwoods in the east to spread to the whole network. A sort of intentional amputation. Or that the twisted corruption became a secondary effect of the sundering and cut offing. Could also be some combo, there’s narrative room to create something that entails both.
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