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Is Translation Cheating?

28K views · Mar 14, 2025 · Education

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  • @polyMATHY_Luke · 1 year ago · pinned

    Is using translation cheating when it comes to learning a foreign language? &nbsp;In the paedagogical world of communicative Latin and Ancient Greek, we often eschew translation as an obstacle to acquisition — but there is more than one kind of &quot;translation&quot; ! &nbsp;In this video, I show you how to use translations to improve reading fluency in your target language; and this technique may be the only way to learn to read some ancient languages.<br><br>Sign up by April 12 to take part in the summer session classes at Ancient Language Institute! &nbsp;It&apos;s time to learn Latin, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew, and Old English! &nbsp;Sign up at <a href="https://ancientlanguage.com/">https://AncientLanguage.com</a> &nbsp;<br><br>Lysias Loeb edition on Amazon: <a href="https://amzn.to/4kPv03d">https://amzn.to/4kPv03d</a><br><br>🦂 &nbsp;Support my work on Patreon: <br><a href="https://www.patreon.com/LukeRanieri">https://www.patreon.com/LukeRanieri</a><br><br>📚 &nbsp;Luke Ranieri Audiobooks:<br><a href="https://luke-ranieri.myshopify.com/">https://luke-ranieri.myshopify.com</a><br><br>🤠 &nbsp;Take my course LATIN UNCOVERED on StoryLearning, including my original Latin adventure novella &quot;Vir Petasātus&quot;<br><a href="https://learn.storylearning.com/lu-promo?affiliate_id=3932873">https://learn.storylearning.com/lu-promo?affiliate_id=3932873</a><br><br>☕ Support my work with PayPal:<br><a href="https://paypal.me/lukeranieri">https://paypal.me/lukeranieri</a><br><br>And if you like, do consider joining this channel:<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLbiwlm3poGNh5XSVlXBkGA/join">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLbiwlm3poGNh5XSVlXBkGA/join</a><br><br>🏛 Latin by the Ranieri-Dowling Method: <a href="https://luke-ranieri.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/latin-by-the-ranieri-dowling-method-latin-summary-of-forms-of-nouns-verbs-adjectives-pronouns-audio-grammar-tables">https://luke-ranieri.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/latin-by-the-ranieri-dowling-method-latin-summary-of-forms-of-nouns-verbs-adjectives-pronouns-audio-grammar-tables</a><br><br>🏺Ancient Greek by the Ranieri-Dowling Method: <a href="https://luke-ranieri.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/ancient-greek-by-the-ranieri-dowling-method-latin-summary-of-forms-of-nouns-verbs-adjectives-pronouns-audio-grammar-tables">https://luke-ranieri.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/ancient-greek-by-the-ranieri-dowling-method-latin-summary-of-forms-of-nouns-verbs-adjectives-pronouns-audio-grammar-tables</a><br><br>🏛 &nbsp;Ancient Greek in Action · Free Greek Lessons:<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLU1WuLg45SixsonRdfNNv-CPNq8xUwgam">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLU1WuLg45SixsonRdfNNv-CPNq8xUwgam</a><br><br>🦂 &nbsp;ScorpioMartianus (my channel for content in Latin, Ancient Greek, &amp; 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  • @atypicalambience3487 · 1 year ago

    Language learning is hard and alot of the times not fair. Cheat as much as you can!

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  • @richardwaring8613 · 1 year ago

    It even works for Shakespeare, reading the notes helps you understand the jokes and how Elizabethans/Stuarts thought. I know explaining a joke usually kills it but when you watch Shakespeare it is no longer a torrent of words.

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  • @MainMan10 · 1 year ago

    <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vte49R0mdWs&amp;t=697">11:37</a> every time i hear him recite something in greek or latin it puts a smile on my face

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  • @kena3234 · 1 year ago

    Watching Star Trek from the beginning with your wife in Italian. Relationship goals right there

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  • @nidhishshivashankar4885 · 1 year ago

    I think parallel text is a form of comprehensible input so ofc it’ll help

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  • @SouthPark333Gaming · 1 year ago

    I personally love Wheelock&apos;s Latin; don&apos;t shoot me!

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  • @marcberg2553 · 1 year ago

    My strategy for learning Latin is to get as much input as possible but ensuring it is appropriate for my level. Alongside Familia Romana, I read other Latin readers and novellas, starting with the easiest ones. Initially, I read out loud without looking up unknown words, but I make sure to mark them. Once I’ve finished the reader or novella, I look up the marked words and create flashcards in Anki. I then practice these words while continuing to read other novellas and readers. Finally, I reread the book, and by the second time, my comprehension is usually at least 90–95%. This works for me

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  • @RobinGullstrandGamer · 5 months ago

    I would like to learn Aramaic!

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  • @shanedemeulenaere5792 · 1 year ago (edited)

    Thanks for spelling this out so clearly. I&apos;ve sort of done this approach before, but now I&apos;m excited to give it another try. Time to dust off the multilingual books I&apos;ve been hoarding. 😅<br><br>EDIT: I also just realized that I&apos;ve been doing this with multilingual signs and user manuals basically my whole life. Probably why I can read a small amount of Spanish even though I&apos;ve never taken classes or studied really.

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  • @zacharyleonard9413 · 1 year ago

    when I am learning a new language and I come across a sentence I don&apos;t understand, I will look up the meanings of the words and the setence as a whole. Then I will re-read the entire sentence while thinking of the meanings of each word and how they affect the meaning of the sentence as a whole until I completely understand the meaning of the sentence in my head in the original language without thinking in English. Then I will continue on reading. For more simple sentences I might read it out loud and make relevant hand gestures or something as I say it.

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  • @PeterPrevos · 1 year ago (edited)

    I learned German as a child because I used to watch german TV shows - never did any grammar or memorised word lists. I am looking forward to the Latin version of Startrek.

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