The TRUTH About Abaddon The Despoiler. | Warhammer 40K Lore

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  @weshammer · 3 years ago · pinned

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  @Dustbinlid1 · 3 years ago

  My favourite Abaddon moment is when they first find out that the Emporer is now considered a god, and they all just burst out laughing &quot;The word bearer&apos;s were right&quot;

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  @LordyT34 · 3 years ago

  &quot;You can make all the memes you want, it won&apos;t bring back Cadia&quot; - Abbadon the Despoiler

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  @EdBurke37 · 3 years ago

  My favorite Abaddon memes aren&apos;t about him being a failure but just about how his old metal minis arms kept falling off.

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  @Zivon96 · 3 years ago

  Abaddon&apos;s best moment is still in the Siege of Terra novel &quot;The Lost and the Damned.&quot; The traitor Primarchs are all having a meeting over hololith on the Vengeful Spirit. Angron is pacing back and forth and raging whenever he speaks, Fulgrim is flirting with anything that moves, Perturabo is grumbling about how he&apos;s carrying the heresy, Magnus is bored and barely paying attention, and Mortarion is nowhere to be found. Abaddon walks into all this nonsense, turns to a raging Angron and, showing off some serious brass balls, tells them to mute his mic.

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  @Bread-nx9fo · 3 years ago

  My favorite thing about Abaddon is that he&apos;s not just a mindless puppet like other chaos leaders, he is distrustful of the chaos gods and works towards his own goals. He&apos;s very much sane and very deadly.

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  @Whatchareadin816 · 3 years ago

  I love Abaddon as a villain. &nbsp;His portrayal in 30K is fantastic as Horus’ most loyal and brutal Capt. &nbsp;Then in 4OK lore he is vocal about how Horus failed because he is weak. I love how in his mind HE is using Chaos and not the other way around, just like Horus thought. &nbsp;It’s pretty poetic.

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  @s.31.l50 · 3 years ago

  I think Abaddon can be &apos;rehabilitated&apos; if we just let ADB do his thing. The black legion books are great, and in general he&apos;s a pretty good chaos writer.

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  @Lumen_Obscurum · 3 years ago

  I was a player back in the before times. My first codex was Chaos Space Marines 3rd edition, second codex. I devoured all the lore I could get my hands on in early 2000s Australia without having much money, and I always pointed out that Abaddon refused to submit to Chaos which lead to him getting the Mark of Chaos Ascendant. I&apos;ve never thought he failed in his Black Crusades, and I recall the campaign you mentioned and how it fizzled. Almost as a reflection of the state of the galaxy, no power can take over because they&apos;re all trying to get through the door at once like that old Simpsons episode where Mr Burns has every disease and thus isn&apos;t dying from any.<br><br>Back on point, I think Abaddon understands Chaos in the same way an old-time experienced sailor understands the sea. They can use it, they can read it, but they can never trust it because it will always ebb and flow like the tides. He will never succumb to the Sea of Souls, but he has a certain love for it. Born of respect, healthy amounts of fear, and millennia of experience. He knows that Chaos is always there, but that he cannot master it, only master using it to further his goals. I wouldn&apos;t be surprised if what he tells the Ruinous Powers he wants and what he actually wants, are two very different things. He knows if he is promised what he wants, what he truly desires, it gives them a place to lever his mind open and consume his soul. <br><br>He has seen Primarchs, Astartes, and even men try to control chaos and fall to it. Or tell it what they truly want, and become consumed by it. He is a man who knows he cannot build his plans on a single great push, because the nature of Chaos is that it will desert his side at that moment. So he carefully builds his plans one step at a time, changing the status quo so when the Sea is calm again it has changed to be in a better spot. He&apos;s a man digging a grounded ship out with his bare hands, each time the tide comes in it shifts just a little more and erases most of his work, but the ship is slowly getting free. I think ultimately, his victory will be through the various Astartes champions of Chaos. Kharn, Ahriman, possibly even Lucius and Typhus. They are each the pinnacle of the Space Marine for each God, if he could get them to join the Black Legion and throw off the shackles of their Primarch&apos;s deity then perhaps they could join him as Chaos Ascendant. But, he knows until then he must treat them as all aspects of the Sea. They rise and fall with the Great Game, so none can be relied upon.

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  @OneReallyGrumpyJill · 3 years ago

  Classic GW moment: his crusades being secret victories wasn&apos;t a retcon, GW just failed to communicate the clues.

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  @eruantien9932 · 3 years ago

  I think one of the things that did the most damage to Abaddon&apos;s reputation with the fan-base, is what the lore stats about the Gothic War; namely, Abaddon entrusting Planet Killer to a guy who got it torpedoed out from under him by a handful of cruisers. According to lore from 1999, Abaddon gives Arkham command of his flagship to make a &quot;diversionary attack&quot; with no support, then fails his own campaign and abandons Arkham and Planet Killer (who a little while later runs into four Lunars and gets pelted with torps from outside of gun range). Which is just a prime example of Abaddon making a bizarre strategic gaff for someone supposed to be the greatest threat to the Imperium.<br>The combination of this, the old Black Crusade lore boiling down to &quot;he broke some stuff, but was rebuffed by Cadia, the first planet he comes across&quot;, and his mini being horrific to build (&quot;the Armless&quot;), leads to the meme of him being a walking disaster.

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  @krankarvolund7771 · 3 years ago

  I mean the big advantage of Guilliman over Abaddon is that he&apos;s functionally a new character. Yeah, he existed in 30K and was obviously known in 40K, but fonctionally in the 40K timeline, he&apos;s a new character with an impressive backstory. There&apos;s not thirty years of lore to retcon and readapt to the new story, it&apos;s just &quot;oh, he&apos;s alive now&quot; and then you developp his motivations ^^

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