Far Zenith and Tilda van der Meer - A Deconstruction of Villainy

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• DA

  @Dantalu5 · 2 years ago

  Making the rich survivors of the apocalypse just incompetent, deceptive rich snobs is very accurate.

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• SE

  @sevenlexar · 2 years ago

  Honestly, I love these guys specifically BECAUSE they&apos;re pathetic. For all their immortality, all the years they&apos;ve lived, all the hyper-advanced tech they have - they don&apos;t have any actual SKILL. They&apos;re the polar opposite to the folks down on earth - where the Tribals rely on skill and ingenuity and creativity to overcome beasts regularly multiple times their size AND power, the FZ&apos;s rely almost exclusively on their tech. <br>The moment they don&apos;t have their advanced gear, they topple like a tower made of wet paper. Take away the tribals gear, and they&apos;ll just slap together something else to fight you with. It&apos;s a wonderful little parallel~

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• ID

  @idkheheMemeMaster · 1 year ago

  I like how the villains here weren’t some fantastical creatures like vampires, zombies, etc. It was just a group of greedy rich dumbasses. I feel it makes it feel MUCH more realistic

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• CA

  @cableman23 · 1 year ago

  Gaia has an interesting line describing the Zeniths as extreme survivalists. The keyword “survive” and not “live.” They choose to flee but not colonize the Moon, Mars, asteroids or other planets between Earth and Sirius. Once they make it to Sirius, they only build one colony and no further exploration (that we are aware of). Before fleeing again, their society was overthrown in 72 hours. That’s how fragile they were. It’s almost like a doomsday prepper who actually survives the apocalypse but doesn’t know how to farm.

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• TH

  @TheDarkMarioAndSonic · 2 years ago (edited)

  One thing I wish you had covered was Stanley Chen. A man who had been tricked into losing everything, he decided to throw his last remnants of fortune into the casino in Las Vegas, believing he had nothing left. Miraculously, he won, and rebuilt himself in a single night. Seeing it as a second chance at life, he got back to work, becoming a billionaire over the next years. Unfortunately, due to a water crisis, Las Vegas was on the verge of collapse, until Stanley came to save it by introducing a revolutionary water filtration system, all for the mission of saving the city he believed had once saved him. Under his leadership, Vegas became a paradise of fun and enjoyment, until the Faro Plague. Tellingly, as he was fleeing, Stanley decided last minute to not turn off the pleasure district he built, hoping that, if anything survived, that they enjoy what it had to offer. A millennium later, Aloy does just that, revitalizing and turning that place into a thriving community of entertainment in a world that desperately needs it. <br><br>Stanley went with Far Zenith, since it was his only option. However, while the rest of his compatriots shut themselves away in hedonistic daydreams, Stanley Chen never lost his humanity. If you ask Tilda, she&apos;ll mention how he recreated his dream city in VR, and up until the very end, his doors were always open to any who wanted a night in the city of dreams. His story proves that not all Zeniths were terrible. There were those who legitimately wanted to do good with the gifts they had. That he died with the advent of Nemesis is one of the biggest tragedies of Forbidden West in my opinion.

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• ME

  @MentalEdge · 2 years ago (edited)

  Eric is laughably easy to kill. Part of it is that Horizons combat system is built around fighting machines, so human enemies end up boring and simplistic in comparison, but I also think it&apos;s intentional.<br><br>Without his shield you can kill him with the simple &quot;arrow to the head&quot; strategy that works on any old human, and simply breaking line-of-sight makes him completely impotent. He&apos;s in no great hurry to keep the pressure on the player. With a good sharp-shot bow the fight is over in less than a minute, with most of the time going to pulling the string until it does overdraw damage, then using slowmo to place your aim over his head.<br><br>Compare that to the other human boss fight in the game, Regalla, who will actually aim for Aloy&apos;s head and take big chunks out of your health bar unless you put some actual thought into the fight. Eric really does not put up a fight worth mentioning.

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• TA

  @TalesZuliani · 2 years ago

  Rich people fleeing to other planet instead of helping others. Most realistic thing ever to be put on a videogame

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• LA

  @latrodectusmactans7592 · 2 years ago

  “They are also probably the most pathetic villains I have covered on this channel”<br><br>You know things are bad when G5 Iguazu is less pathetic.

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• EN

  @endless_mooming · 2 years ago (edited)

  &quot;They gave birth to a child, locked it in a closet by itself then told it to do homework all day long.&quot; So their basically the Dursleys but even worse.

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• MA

  @maxleroux · 2 years ago (edited)

  I don&apos;t blame Elisabet for breaking up with Tilda. Despite her own character flaws, she was smart enough to realize just how toxically codependent their relationship was becoming, so she broke it off before she let herself get too attached. Honestly, I think meeting Tilda also helped Aloy realize how she had been putting her biological mother on such a high pedestal, too.

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• JO

  @josephgravley3603 · 2 years ago

  Fun fact: Far Zenith was initially doing the whole space travel thing for the benefit of humanity, but a change in leaders shifted that goal into what we see in Forbidden West. And when I say change in leaders, I mean within the game itself.

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• EH

  @Ehhhhhmm · 2 years ago

  When Far Zenith comes up there are quite a few people who just go &quot;bad villians, just comically evil&quot; but i really like them, they are the literal worst humanity has to offer one could even argue that with all the technology they have inside them the probably aren&apos;t even strictly human anymore (Erik bleeds white when killed) which is a nice contrast to Aloy and her companions and Elisabet herself

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