Minimalism is Getting Absurd: Updating Dieter Rams' 10 Principles

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  @Design.Theory · 3 years ago (edited) · pinned

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  @outsidestuff5283 · 3 years ago

  Im so glad you&apos;re talking about aesthetic minimalism getting in the way of functional minimalism. I am getting increasingly annoyed with technology increasingly getting rid of buttons in favour of prettier screens and touchpads at the expense of useability. Cars are probably the worst example of this where touchscreen interfaces are making it impossible to adjust entertainment and climate controls without looking away from the road, making them inherently more dangerous.

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  @MisterIceRat · 3 years ago

  The irony about the environmentally friendly rule is that the most minimalist companies are also the ones that want us to throw away our old products and replace them as fast as possible.

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  @The_Kojin · 3 years ago (edited)

  Function over form leads to minimalism.<br><br>But trying to ACHIEVE minimalism for aesthetic alone is just slipping into form over function again.<br><br>It&apos;s one of the things that drives me crazy about modern design.

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  @f.remplakowski · 3 years ago (edited)

  I’m also tired of design being used as an excuse to prevent repair and upgradability. Too many companies now expect people to just buy something new instead of allowing the usable lifespan of a product to be increased with engineering and design choices that are anti consumer. <br><br>Everything behind a subscription is a worrying trend and it’s influencing the design of products and systems negatively.

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  @hanzflackshnack1158 · 3 years ago

  “Good design communicates what is necessary.” This is perfect. It inherently includes the purpose of refinement rather than forcing refinement beyond the intended purpose. Well played, sir, well played

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  @xandfis · 3 years ago

  The 911 is a great example of what Dieter was arguing for in car design - relative consistency compared to, as he said, &quot;change every two years.&quot;

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  @ThorneyedWT · 5 months ago

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5InhRf2JrU&amp;t=205">3:25</a> - It&apos;s funny how we can clearly see that Braun calculator design is actually worse than Casio. Glossy pill-shaped buttons reflect light over already smaller numbers making them harder to read, matte concave casio buttons with bigger numbers are so much better.

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  @elfi643 · 3 years ago

  I hate that minimalism has become something that causes people to create beige rooms for babies who need a lot of color and visual stimulation for proper brain development. The overuse of minimalism purely for the look is legitimately going to harm people.

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  @moistusapparatus9710 · 3 years ago

  My parents had a kitchen kitchen timer with up to 3 independently programmable timers with only 3 buttons?!<br>It was impossible for anyone but my dad to set up a simple 2 minute timer for tea.<br><br>They eventually got rid of it in favour of a old spring loaded mechanically kitchen timer . . .

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  @Shako_Lamb · 3 years ago

  I know it isn&apos;t the main point of the video, but I&apos;m so fascinated by the Gen Z push toward maximalism, because I&apos;m totally in that camp. My current landlord allowed me to paint the house when I moved in, so I painted my bedroom in greens and yellows to match the scheme I saw in a historic 1840s house. It was way more effort than necessary, but it makes me feel so much more comfortable and natural than all-white everything would. Even the idea of an &quot;accent wall&quot; in a solid color feels too clinical now.<br>I also bought an antique silver-plated utensil set for $30 and polished it all and use it as my everyday utensils. Why? Because it feels sooo good in this sterile modern reality we live in.<br>The old wooden Colonial-revival coffee table I got at the thrift store is so much more interesting and emotionally comforting to me than an IKEA table... you get the idea.

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  @oupwo7468 · 3 years ago

  About bonsai, well, that&apos;s actually the opposite. Wiring is used to actually bend the tree to your will and you can actually bend each branch as you want. It just takes more time and effort. The size of the leafs also can vary according to the amount of nutrient you give your tree. That being said, I agree with you tho. Some parts of a design can be &quot;random&quot;. I think it can make it flow more organically.

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