Was a 6th man the MVP of a dynasty? | Offensive Legends Ep. 6

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  @ThinkingBasketball · 2 years ago · pinned

  On the issue of playing vs starters or bench units:<br><br>In the sample in the video (&apos;04-08), Duncan played 73% of his minutes w/out Manu vs 4 or 5 starters, Manu just 28% w/out Duncan. So Manu played against more bench units. BUT, Ginobili was +8 per 100 vs &quot;starters&quot; and Duncan was -5 per 100 vs &quot;starters.&quot;<br><br>Manu also played more WITH bench players (3, 4 or 5 bench players), logging 48% of his Duncan minutes like that, compared to just 7% of Duncan&apos;s Manu-less minutes. Again, Manu was +2 per 100 in those minutes &quot;with reserves&quot;, Duncan -14 per 100 in his &quot;with reserves&quot; minutes. <br><br>So I don&apos;t think bottom-feeding explains the numbers. I think shooting luck is a bigger factor in those small samples (600 minutes for Manu), and Ginobili&apos;s lineups had some, but I don&apos;t think that explains the phenomenon in the video.

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• OM

  @OmnipotentSpud · 2 years ago

  Manu was the primary reason why the Spurs offense never seemed to stall. He was most creative when stuff hits the fan.

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• MC

  @mcoymedina · 2 years ago

  One of the best basketball analyses I&apos;ve ever seen. Few people understand why Ginobili is one of the most underrated basketball greats ever.

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  @JRiddyCuz · 2 years ago

  I lived in Dallas when Manu was in his prime. It was hard being a Mavs fan with the Spurs always being right there and so good. And Manu was the worst. Parker and Duncan, you knew what they were gonna bring. But Manu was the wild card. Whenever it seemed like the Mavs were winning, Manu would pull something crazy out of his ass and beat us back down. There was no one that scared me more than Manu Ginobili.

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  @PeteKay · 2 years ago (edited)

  I met Manu at Best Buy many years ago. He was looking for a laptop and I was just a customer. &nbsp;At the time, I was stationed there at Fort Sam Houston working (burn nurse) at Brooke Army Medical Center. &nbsp;Anyway, Manu let me call a friend who was a BIG MG fan. &nbsp;Manu talked with him for a minute and life was great. &nbsp;He&apos;s a very nice, genuine man. &nbsp;That&apos;s what I remember about the man. &nbsp;On the basketball court, &nbsp;absolute LEGEND.

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• AQ

  @aquatazer · 2 years ago

  I was not expecting a Ginobili video, but he absolutely deserves it. What a great player.

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• NK

  @nkrumansantos1794 · 2 years ago

  High impact is more valuable than high stats.<br>Manu is the poster child of impact.<br>It feels special for us Spurs fans to see Manu&apos;s recognized.<br>Thank you.

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• ZO

  @Zoofari2424 · 2 years ago

  Thank you for this. Nobody has ever done Manu justice. He’s my second favorite player all time just because when he’s in the game I cannot take my eyes off him

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  @mondroProducciones · 2 years ago

  No doubt Top 75 all time. A winner on every place he played (even gold medal). He popularized the eurostep in the nba and made miracles in Argentina&apos;s team.

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  @niqowyd · 2 years ago

  Manu could of easily been a 25ppg/8apg superstar in the league. The most impressive part of his creativity is that it wasn’t planned out, he wasn’t out there thinking he was out there flowing. Beautiful player to watch

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  @wingman4356 · 2 years ago (edited)

  I watched my 2004 Pistons lock down Kobe in the Finals with 2 of the best on ball defenders in NBA history--Tayshaun Prince and Lindsey Hunter--then watched Manu put them on skates for 7 games the next year, taking over 4th quarters as they looked helpless. &nbsp;That includes when he put on a cape in the 4th quarter of a game 7 when it was tied, scoring 11 with 3 assists and 2 steals, while dunking on Rasheed Wallace, I believe, after he dunked on Ben Wallace near the end of 3rd quarter.<br><br>He scored or assisted on 16 of the last 20 Spurs points. &nbsp;<br><br>His shimmy shake when dribbling froze Prince, Hunter and Rip like Barry Sanders froze DBs.

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• KA

  @Kairo-Raju-Rushing · 2 years ago

  Honestly, I do feel like Manu should&apos;ve won the finals mvp in 05 his ability to score so effectively with the lack of shots against such a great defense should&apos;ve been rewarded.

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