This Kids' Movie has Better History than Most Historical Dramas
338K views · Sep 2, 2022 · Education
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@Alex-cw3rz · 4 years ago (edited) · pinned
I'm a sailor (I have helped out on a square rigger a decade ago), firstly no dig at the show on any of the small mistakes, as this is so much further than a kids show needs to go and it's amazing they put it in, in the first place. I'll split into four parts what the captains says, what I presume is the first mate says, what the animation of the ship does and the Gunner.<br>Captain : So he says hard to port, all happens correctly you'd have more people on the wheel though and he should say the direction e.g. "south west by quarter west" rather than just general turn port. Later we see that sailing to port is not closer to the wind direction as he wanted, but moving away from the wind, if you would say the wind is coming from the side as indicated by the jibs. Which will have probably happened by them reusing a birdseye view animation asset of the ship, which makes sense. <br>First mate : When she says furl the main and fore all good, although depending on how far they are turning with the heading they were on they'd most likely already be furled. She says ease the headsail, as he's going close to the wind as possible (close hauled is what he would say), you'd want to trim the sail (pull in closer) to up your speed. Unless they weren't wanting to go fast in that scenario. <br>Animation : The animation would indicate the wind is behind them or to the side depending which sail you go by, but behind would mean a close to 180 degree turn, which doesn't seem to happen in the animation. This is mainly because a lot of movies like sails to be full and the wind catching them completely and all the sails out at once (making it confusing to which direction the wind is coming from), which you wouldn't do as different sails are optimised for different wind direction. This is acknowledged as something you wouldn't do, in this scene which is brilliant, but I'm not sure if there is a scene in which some sails are furled.<br>The Gunner : not sure what protect our broadsides would mean and Carcass shot was real which is cool and is an early type of incendiary device.<br>Again the fact they put any of this in is great, because it really makes the show come more alive!<br>As I said a decade ago might have got a couple things wrong and missed a couple of things, so please comment more.
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@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 · 4 years ago
Children's media is either high-effort art with immense attention to detail, that often has deeper and more profound themes and meaning than even many adult or Young Adult entertainment, or it is low-effort mass-produced third rate media meant to ride the coat-tails of a more successful franchise. There is literally no middle ground.
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@GorillaWithACellphone · 4 years ago
This proves brandon will watch anything as soon as hears it has history in it
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@mnk9073 · 4 years ago
"Honey, how was work?"<br>"I painstakingly animated the full rigging of a 18th century man of war down to the smallest detail by consulting with several naval historians."<br>"Uh huh, and what are you up to tomorrow?"<br>"We need to visit the range to get both the animations and the sound of the flint-locks right."<br>"Honey, you do still work on that silly kids movie about the sea monsters, right?"<br>*in the way of the GIGACHAD "YES."
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@Zogerpogger · 4 years ago
"This kids' adventure flick cares more about military supple and logistics than most military dramas do."<br> -Brandon F. Reviews
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@exittomenu · 1 year ago
“It’s just for kids” drives me insane<br><br>If we treat kids like imbeciles we can’t be shocked when they grow up to be imbeciles
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@eldorados_lost_searcher · 4 years ago
My son picked this one, and I was only half paying attention, but then I caught bits of dialogue, then some of the visuals, and before the first few minutes had elapsed I was more engrossed in the film than he was.
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@glitch3141 · 4 years ago
One of the challenges with directly adapting history is that the historical narrative is fixed and known. You can’t just tell a story about history without either including the entire context, or adjusting the historical context to fit the tale that’s being told. Doing the former limits the kinds of stories that can be told. <br><br>That’s what I like about historical-esque fantasies like the sea beast. They allow you to tell a story and relate historical elements without being forced to fit all the baggage of the time period.
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@tdog5035 · 4 years ago
Love how the lady pirate fures her pistol and immediately tosses it as it is no longer of use. How many times do you see flintlock pistols being fired loads without ever reloading.
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@Hansjedermann · 4 years ago
Got to respect the captain giving the order to "loose" the bows rather than "fire"
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@nilsniemeier5345 · 4 years ago
It's worth pointing out that Gordon Laco, who was the historical advisor on Master and Commander, worked on this, too.
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@thedamnyankee1 · 4 years ago
The bayonet not being over the sight is only wrong if its a brown bess. I will point out that he is wearing white.
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