Is plant based a 'Game Changer'?

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  @Mdjagg · 6 years ago

  The big take away is when Dave says he's sitting down to take a break and watch a movie, he means this^. Dave, there's plenty of comedies on there too!

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• CH

  @chrissmithdoe2100 · 6 years ago

  one of the best parts of this great video was hearing Dave's pleasant scottish accent pronounce 'nineteen ninety nine'

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  @anosnd · 6 years ago

  My partner who is a nutritionist and former vegan for 12 years mirrored every single major point that Dave brought up. I very much appreciate how well informed and diligent Dave is in all his research. This is a shining example of why I follow his content and will continue to for years to come. Thanks for your work, Dave!

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• DA

  @DaxPlusPlus · 6 years ago

  Thanks for the breakdown - very much appreciate the time and effort you put in to create this.

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  @agh0x01 · 6 years ago (edited)

  I agree with a lot of @Dave MacLeod&apos;s criticism of the health-related claims and the biased narrative presented in the film; the film&apos;s message is that a plant-based diet is superior to a diet containing animal products, which I don&apos;t believe is true. I think a well-planned vegan diet can be the equal of an omnivorous diet for some athletic endeavours, or at least not be the limiting factor in an athlete&apos;s performance - possibly entailing more effort for the vegan though.<br><br>Dave&apos;s comments imply that what is optimal is a requirement in several parts of this video, such as the areas dealing with biological value of protein consumed, and the necessity of combining amino acids in the optimal ratios in the same meal (with the implication it may be impossible on a vegan diet, not merely more difficult). I guess from the point of view of elite athletes it&apos;s preferable for everything to be as good as it can be, but once an athlete&apos;s diet is not the limiting factor in their performance this emphasis is redundant and misplaced. I grant this certainly goes against the notion presented in the film that a vegan diet is eminently superior, which is what Dave is (rightly) challenging.<br><br>Also, I thought that it was widely agreed that the need for protein combining was a myth - or is Dave again talking about what is optimal? Are there studies that indicate protein combining is necessary? Even just for elite-level athletic performance?<br><br>On the subject of land use, at around <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grtMHppLL34&amp;t=2416">40:16</a> Dave talks about the land use of animal vs. plant agriculture, where the former consumes around 80% of agricultural land yet produces only 18% of calories (albeit a higher ratio of highly bioavailable protein). Dave&apos;s comments &quot;...that&apos;s because large areas of the land surface of the world are unsuitable for crop production... it could not be swapped over&quot; could be misleading in that they might leave the viewer with the impression that <b>none</b> of the animal agriculture land could be used to grow plants. In practice, a lot of land that doesn&apos;t currently grow plants for human consumption could be modified to do so (e.g. swales, terracing, other ideas from permaculture), or different crops more suited to the local environment could be selected.<br><br>Dave&apos;s assertion that a plant-based diet is not &quot;sustainable&quot; without &quot;supplement[ing] the hell out out of their diet&quot; is subjective and not borne out by my own experience (after 18 years vegan); supplementation of several nutrients (vitamin B12, vitamin D, etc) is recommended for all plant-based diets, but that does not mean that a plant-based diet with only minimal supplementation is &quot;unsustainable&quot;. This is yet another false dichotomy Dave seems to be presenting, albeit possibly unwittingly.

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• PE

  @petermenzies1029 · 5 years ago

  Dave, you are a boon to climbers everywhere. Thank you for the well-researched information you present in an accessible manner, and for encouraging us all to think for ourselves.

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• SJ

  @sjclark76 · 6 years ago

  I really enjoyed the format of this video. Cheers Dave.

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• ED

  @eddytheeditor · 2 years ago

  Ah Dave! Your videos are brilliant. Can&apos;t believe I&apos;ve only just come across this. To hear someone eductated and intellient break down some of these arguments so well is fantastic. Thank you.

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  @renatoornelas1998 · 5 years ago

  This has been an eye openner and one of the best explanation that I have heard in a while, for nutrition and the whole dieting and baance diet and Dave really put a point on that theme and I am very happy bout that. Thanks or everything. Excelent video and all the good things in life for you. From Portugal.

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• DU

  @dunklaw · 6 years ago

  The agriculture you are referring to @ <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grtMHppLL34&amp;t=2246">37:26</a> already exists as feed for the animal industry.

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• CH

  @christopherbuchauer4859 · 6 years ago

  Thank you so much man!! You are a straight LEGEND, keep this up. You inspire me to look more into everything like this.

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• JO

  @johnt2902 · 6 years ago

  your scientific approach and critical analysis of this, and using your platform with a climbing audience is so refreshing. Allot of my friends have switched to this under the precedence of documentaries like the one you watch. A healthy balance seems to be a much healthier way to live, and the cutting out of the western diet and reverting back to the home cooked meals with high quality food as opposed to processed food.

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