Laurel Canyon Episode 8 (Part 3) - The Many Motives of Mr. Manson

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• BI

  @billlieu9116 · 4 years ago · pinned

  Excellent series, but there's one minor error. The photo you show of Rudy Altobelli, the owner of the 10050 Cielo house, is actually a photo of Stuart Cohen who was Rudy's domestic partner. Both Rudy and Stuart were talent managers well know in Hollywood during that era.

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• JO

  @joannehughes5249 · 4 years ago

  I&apos;m glad that you mentioned Steven Parent, poor kid. <br>So tastefully presented, you did justice to the victims.

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• MI

  @michaelcowart6100 · 4 years ago (edited)

  The definitive book on the subject: Chaos by Tom O&apos;neill

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• J4

  @j4b4j4b5 · 4 years ago

  Drugs were a major part of ALL of this. &nbsp;The March 23, 1969 party was only one of many out-of-control events. &nbsp;There, the three main Canadian drug dealers who were all friends of Mama Cass - Tom Harrigan (who would also tell police he visited Frykowski there two days before the murders), Billy Doyle (a violent pusher-addict) and Pic Dawson (addict who was the son of a diplomat) - were supposedly kicked out of the March party for starting trouble. &nbsp;They were the &quot;suppliers&quot; for much of that crowd. &nbsp;Everybody knew that. &nbsp;Their number one goal was to secure a local, trustworthy contact whose territory would be Hollywood. &nbsp;They pedalled MDMA, then a new drug nowadays mostly known as &quot;ecstasy,&quot; and knew Voytek Frykowski was already deeply ensconsed in the drug trade. &nbsp;To many in Hollywood, remember the Cielo Drive house was always known as a place where one could obtain the newest stuff. &nbsp;Before Melcher lived there, it was rented by Mark Lindsay of Paul Revere and the Raiders. &nbsp;Frykowski and his GF and funder, heiress Abigail &quot;Gibby&quot; Folger, would have the run of the property while both Polanski and Tate were in Europe for most of the summer. &nbsp;There, they held parties SEVERAL times per week and the ne&apos;er-do-wells they knew personally were all there - ALL THE TIME. &nbsp;Sharon&apos;s friends questioned the wisdom of Polanski&apos;s friends being given unfettered access, but nonetheless, it happened. &nbsp;Frykowski&apos;s dealings with MANY - at all hours of the night - made the intrusion of a few hippie-types around midnight August 9th not seem all that unusual. &nbsp;Meanwhile, back at Spahn, Charles Watson, a young criminal upstart - already dealing in Hollywood with a girlfriend - would occasionally stop by for girls, additional drug connections and mostly to &quot;lay low.&quot; &nbsp;He got close in July to one of the girls, Linda Louise Kasabian. &nbsp;Kasabian, who - according to Bugliosi, of course - supposedly stole $5K from her husband to simply &quot;give&quot; Watson for some reason. &nbsp;Seems more like Robert Kasabian and likely FBI informant Charles Melton gave her the money and used her as a mule. She would later admit to initially doing a deal at the Cielo Drive house, where she got &quot;ripped off for the bread.&quot; &nbsp;Hmmm. &nbsp;(&quot;Helter Skelter,&quot; my a**.) &nbsp; And, it should be noted, the FBI, it is rumored, was watching the Tate/Polanski house anyway. &nbsp;MEANWHILE, Jay Sebring, Sharon&apos;s former Fiancé and noted men&apos;s haidresser was often hanging around with his ex when she was back in L.A. &nbsp;His salon - and this is VERY, VERY important - was mostly financed by the Mob. &nbsp;One such guy, Eugene &quot;Gino&quot; Massaro, ran several operations along with an underling: Joel Rostau. &nbsp;Rostau - whose body would be found decomposing in the trunk of a rental car in JFK airport three months before the trial began in May, 1970, had a girlfriend named Karlene McCaffery, who was Jay Sebring&apos;s personal secretary. &nbsp;Sebring had been known in Hollywood as &quot;The Candy Man&quot; and he - along with his friends like Steve McQueen (a secret crush and occasional bed partner of Sharon Tate) - supplied the likes of Sinatra and his crew, whilst also charging large fees to his haircut &quot;clients&quot; who visited his establishment on Faifax. &nbsp;Obviously, though, it is more likely patrons emerged from the salon with more than just a fashionable haircut. &nbsp;And I&apos;m quite sure Rostau and Massaro made certain Karlene cooked the books properly. &nbsp;According to the Police progress report, Rostau told Karlene he visited Cielo Drive at 8 p.m. August 8th to bring Sebring the Cocaine and other drugs he requested, but had to leave because he didn&apos;t have all of it, and said he&apos;d return. &nbsp;He never did. &nbsp;(This is available to read on-line. &nbsp;The &quot;Second Tate Progress Report&quot; is worth viewing, as it shows what police were uncovering BEFORE the culprits were arrested, and the new &quot;narrative&quot; was changed by Bugliosi to be a Manson-directed murder predicated on anger toward Terry Melcher and the desire to start a &quot;race war.&quot;) &nbsp; Apparently, others who&apos;d been waiting for those at 10050 Cielo to make good on the drug burn they&apos;d committed on young Linda a couple weeks earlier were not very happy that by midnight, their demands were not met. &nbsp;Watson, who&apos;d discovered that his &quot;territory&quot; had been tread-on by the new pretender, Frykowski, was more than a bit angry anyway, so his accompanying Kasabian and a couple other familiar girls to recover what he deemed rightfully his turned tragic. &nbsp;Sharon - according to family member Sandra Good - was not supposed to be there. &nbsp;Tex checked ahead of time, she said. &nbsp;So all of this - and more - could be said to stem from a very bad set of circumstances, mostly having to do with drug dealers and lots of money. &nbsp;Like the Wonderland murders of 1981, tremendous violence is known to result when individuals in this line of work have an ax to grind.

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• BE

  @beanburrito6231 · 4 years ago

  I don&apos;t know how I ended up here but I&apos;ve watched every episode ..... you get an A+

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• MO

  @motowngirl5891 · 1 year ago

  I was a teenager when this happened <br>Shocked the world

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• EA

  @eagleman1542 · 4 years ago

  Steve Parent is a prime example of &quot;being in the wrong place at the wrong time.&quot; R.I.P. to all the victims of the Manson Family.

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• PR

  @priestessbrenda · 1 year ago

  I NEVER get tired of this series. My bucket ist moment is to visit Laurel Canyon someday, if anything exists after this horrendous fire. The worst part of disasters like this, the history that gets lost and the memories.

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• PA

  @PaulHaussler-bs1qi · 3 years ago

  Wow... This started with Buffalo Springfield (my favorite) The Doors, Love, and so much more. &nbsp;This part was a left turn into darkness. &nbsp;I remember renting horses at the Spahn Ranch in 1966 or 67. &nbsp;I was back one more time with a friend probably in early 1969 and warned not to drink the water in the dispenser because it had LSD in it. &nbsp;There was no one else there at the time fortunately. &nbsp;Wow...

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• JO

  @johnrpizzaguy · 4 years ago

  Thank you Billy my wife and I grew up in the 60s, she just off of Topanga blvd in Chatsworth and I just off of Topanga Canyon that’s probably why she is still at 61 a mild hippie. Myself I worked as a studio keyboardist throughout the Valley,Canyons and Hollywood it was an incredible time in history but none of us knew that at that time! We are both living the quiet life, still married 43 years here in San Luis Obispo,California but I had to stop down and thank you for all the great work you did putting together this mini series Truly Amazing!!!!! Again Thank You.

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• MO

  @motowngirl5891 · 1 year ago

  Your vids are excellent <br>Drugs and drinking leads to nowhere but problems and early death

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• RU

  @ruedebrune4594 · 1 year ago

  Poor Dennis was messed up

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