All about Chara: The hidden protagonist of Undertale

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  @ShrubSparrow · 3 years ago · pinned

  Hi everyone! I wanted to address a couple of comments that I&apos;ve gotten many times since the video took off. <br><br>First, people have pointed out that I shouldn&apos;t take Flowey&apos;s words at the beginning of the genocide route as proof of anything. And I agree that I could have worded that part better. Like many people said, Flowey ends up thinking that Frisk is Chara in every route, so even if he comes to that conclusion faster in this route, it&apos;s not really proof of anything. Still, even if we can&apos;t take Flowey&apos;s words as truth, in this case there are other major pieces of evidence (such as the mirror text and the changes in narration) that still point to the same direction. Either way, I shouldn&apos;t have used the word &quot;control&quot; here, since like I explained later, I still believe that the player is the one in control for most of the game. <br><br>I still wouldn&apos;t discredit everything Flowey says though, since his comments aren&apos;t really contradicted by anything else in the game. When he says &quot;You&apos;re not really human, are you? No, you&apos;re empty inside, just like me&quot;, I&apos;m inclined to believe him, because both Sans and Undyne also make comments that imply you&apos;re not truly a human during the genocide route. <br><br>Second, a lot of people have mentioned that at the end of the genocide route, Chara appears to &quot;hesitate&quot; and the player still has to push a button before Flowey gets killed, and thus the choice to kill Flowey would still be left up to the player. However, I don&apos;t fully agree with this. Sure, you CAN still reset the game at that point and back out of the consequences of the genocide route, but that&apos;s only a choice if you already know what&apos;s going to happen and know what to do to avoid it. The game doesn&apos;t give you any prompt like the choice between &quot;Fight&quot; and &quot;Mercy&quot;. You just push a button like you would with any piece of dialogue. I personally think you&apos;re made to push a button (instead of the whole scene playing automatically) to let Flowey&apos;s previous line sink in, and if you&apos;re playing for the first time, you have no idea what will happen after you continue. <br><br>Lastly, thank you so much for all the comments, likes and the 100,000 views! I&apos;m very happy many of you have found this video useful, and that you want to see more! I definitely would like to make more videos like this around Undertale, Deltarune and other topics, it&apos;s just been a matter of finding the time. I have a webcomic that should be finishing by the summer this year, and after that I hope to have more time to make some new videos. Once new Deltarune chapters come out, I&apos;d especially love to analyse Kris more!

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• SI

  @silversamurai0267 · 3 years ago

  I think the mirror really is the greatest proof we have for the Narrator Chara theory. The fact that it says, &quot;It&apos;s still just you, Frisk.&quot; vs, &quot;It&apos;s me, Chara.&quot; seems pretty full-proof in my opinion...

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• OP

  @option3590 · 1 year ago

  You forgot the most important part of Charator.<br><br>In the final Asriel fight, it’s the narrator who not only tells you how to save everyone, but who pushes you to <b>save Asriel too.</b><br><br>They learned from your example of altruism &amp; compassion, and applied it to help their best friend.

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• GE

  @GenderlessP · 3 years ago

  I just wanted to use this comment section to share these small thoughts <br><br>I think it is both absolutely so sweet yet so heartbreaking that Toriel took Chara&apos;s body and buried them where she did. In the only place that receives natural sunlight from the surface. She interpreted Chara&apos;s want to see the golden flowers and their plan as them wanting to go home. So she tried to put them as close to &quot;home&quot; as she could.<br><br>The game over screen. The fact that, whether good or bad, Chara remembers what Asgore said to them on their deathbed. In a neutral or pacifist route, they remember it as if they&apos;re thinking &quot;yeah, I <b>am</b> the future of humans and monsters. I can do this&quot;, and in the genocide route, it&apos;s like they&apos;re thinking &quot;yeah, I <b>am</b> the future of humans and monsters, and I&apos;m going to destroy it&quot;

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• BL

  @BlazingTRS · 3 years ago (edited)

  most people forget that chara died in the 2010s and that undertale could take place in the far future or the near future (unlike deltarune which takes place in the 2020s). this means that asriel didn&apos;t die by arrows but possibly gun shot wounds or worse. it also explains alphys&apos; technology

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• AV

  @AvengersEFBJJN · 1 year ago

  I named myself “balls” and it said “do you think you’re funny?”😂😂😂

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• SW

  @sweetiedropsesteam3438 · 3 years ago

  I actually really like the wording “At this point both Asriel and Chara don’t have a soul”. The fact that Flowey and the Chara we see in genoside are just twisted shells of who Asriel and Chara actually were really makes sense. I mean, if the fandom recognises that Flowey isn’t really Asriel at this point, why can’t they consider that the Chara we see there isn’t the real Chara? That Chara isn’t the person they were when they were a living child? That they probably are just like Asriel?

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• VE

  @veggiedragon1000 · 3 years ago

  Have you seen the theory that Chara doesn&apos;t have red eyes, Frisk does? After all, Chara&apos;s sprite has brown eyes at all times. Only Frisk is shown with red eyes in the soulless pacifist ending. Though they might be possessed, that didn&apos;t necessarily change their eye colour if you assume Frisk&apos;s usual sprite has closed or narrowed eyes. They just opened them wide to cause the red flash, mirroring Chara&apos;s expression. Hence, Kris looks exactly like an older Frisk, including their eye colour; but they behave like Chara.

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• NI

  @nisor123 · 3 years ago (edited)

  I love the idea of Chara being &quot;evil&quot; in the genocide route because of an overload of LV, instead of just being someone irreedemable since birth<br>Edit: wtf happened in the replies

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• KY

  @kyanitekyanos3998 · 3 years ago

  I&apos;m sure someone has already made this comment before, but, laughing can be a sign of distress in those who are mentally unstable.<br>As someone with PTSD, I myself have laughed and been so upset that I couldn&apos;t help but loop back around into thinking that it was funny, because I physically couldn&apos;t be any more upset than I already was. It can also be a panic response! You might not know, but tickling someone and making them laugh is actually triggering a panic response, most of the time- supported by the fact that a lot of people don&apos;t actually like being tickled.

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• YO

  @YourAverageMop · 3 years ago

  I hope this video helps people realize that there&apos;s more nuance to Chara than simply &quot;hurr durr, i must destroy everything&quot;.

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• AN

  @angelaneeley207 · 3 years ago

  I would also like to point out the parallels between Chara and Undyne,they share a hatred for humans,enjoyemnt of anime(the narration makes many anime references),a close bond with Asgore, do some pretty nasty things to further there cause(murder),and at the end of the pacifist run both Asriel and monster kid realize they had been over idolizing them and decide a more pacifist Character would have been better(Frisk/Papyrus).<br>Now that I think about it maybe part of the reason Asgore started growing golden flowers was in Charas memory.

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