The Honest Batman - Episode 5 - Good Choices - Batman : The Enemy Within Game - Joker Ending

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  @cry_stain · 8 years ago · pinned

  What an amazing game. It was so painful watching John trying so hard to be good, but ultimately failing. I really feel for the guy, and I think the episode name (Same Stitch) is talking about Batman, Joker, and Waller. They are all part of the same stitch. The stitch being fighting for justice, but all of them doing it differently. Hell you could even throw Gordon in on this analogy. They all want to do the right thing but make mistakes. Joker wants to do things Batman's way, but his mental illnesses prevent him from not killing and he loses it. I mean just think about the strength and willpower Bruce has to not kill any of the horrible scum he encounters in the field. It would be really hard for anyone to not just go full Punisher and kill all the evil, and just impossible for an unstable person like John. I really feel for him, he just wants to be loved by someone and fit in. The only reason he turns evil is because Bruce rejected him and Harley was there to corrupt him. The only reason he turns good is because Bruce offered him real friendship while they were in the Pact, as opposed to just feeling like a pawn to everyone else in the Pact. Bruce really did use John, but they ended up being real in the end with Bruce genuinely wanting to help John and John genuinely wanting to do good. I know a lot of people didn't like this interpretation of the Batman story, really doing things differently with Thomas being a crime lord, Joker just being impressionable and mentally ill, but I personally love it. It's so complex and just makes sense. Instead of just being cut and dry, really black and white with villains clearly being villains, and heroes being good and doing no evil, this story gives everything more meaning. Instead of clear black and white, villains and Heroes are more gray. Villains like The Penguin and Lady Arkham have great motivation to hate Batman and Bruce. Bruce's father did horrible things to them, locking Lady Arkham's parents in Arkham Asylum, and screwing over the Cobblepot family big time. Heroes like Tifanny and Joker have blood on their hands, despite clearly wanting to do good. Joker not being able to control his urges, and Tifanny wanting revenge for his father. I think Batman sees himself in both of them. It's just naive to say he hasn't had the same impulse to kill the scum of Gotham as Joker, and he relates to Tifanny's thirst for vengeance for obvious reasons. Maybe this even goes for Waller when I say they all want to do the right thing just make/made obvious mistakes. Waller's line of work has desensitized and toughened her into a cold businesswoman. Joker has strong impulses to kill and it's impossible to keep Batman's code for very long. Tifanny just wanted revenge for the murder of his father, just like Bruce with his parents. She hasn't learned to restrain herself like Bruce has and she made a rash decision. I guarantee if little Bruce had the chance to kill Joe Chill in that alley, he would have because young people aren't good at making decisions. Obviously Tifanny isn't a child but she is human.

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• DE

  @dedp527 · 6 years ago

  “We’re taking the batmobile?”<br>“We’re taking the Batmobile!!”

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• LI

  @lilium7434 · 8 years ago

  &quot;Joker totally forgot to remember that&quot; <br><br>I am loving this series more and more.

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• JA

  @Jace_Spicer · 8 years ago

  I feel john needed some more training, maybe some emotional training in which he learns to control that dark side of him. &nbsp;Just the little we&apos;ve seen shows him to be an excellent student and very heavily influenced. &nbsp;So give him that good influence over the bad, teach him to control that darkside and to control the impluses that he has lurking within.

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• RI

  @ricebrittle6280 · 8 years ago

  That ending after the credits. . Kinda touching how bruce came to see john

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• PI

  @PikaveeT · 6 years ago (edited)

  Joker meeting Alfred just made me smile. I don’t know if it’s the bg music or the fact I relate to joker in that scene a bit too much.<br><br>Edit: “We’re taking the Batmobile? We’re taking the Batmobile!”

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  @chubbykankles9885 · 8 years ago

  I just love that his license plate is &quot;lil pudn&quot; like he&apos;s some kind of rapper

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  @TheFlippyFlop2003 · 8 years ago

  I hope that the Joker will get to be a true hero one day

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  @theimmortalhunter · 8 years ago (edited)

  This is the best ending where we;<br>Secure our relationship with Selina<br>Patch up things with Gordon &nbsp;<br>Gave Avesta a Job <br>Forgave Tiffiny and become her mentor<br>And Kept our friendship with John<br><br>I still would have given up Alfred as if there is s3 then he would be back<br>But it doesn&apos;t matter because if there is s3 then even if we give up being Batman, we would take up the mantle again later

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  @Lildeevil · 8 years ago

  I like the joker as a vigilante better than how he is like in the cartoons or games

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  @masterzombie161 · 8 years ago

  What i liked about the joker in this story is they manage to balance both his cruel nature, and his wanting meaning in his life. It works perfectly on how you treat him to give him that meaning. Although im happy for this ending that bruce goes to see him. Im looking forward if john can change for the better, or for something else. I actually would like to see vigilante joker get his own side story, maybe with harley since its not too late for her either.

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  @treyalexander5048 · 8 years ago

  Who else felt horrified when John brutally killed those agents at ace chemicals? I know I did.

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