What If Caesar's Legion Won The First Battle Of Hoover Dam? - Fallout: New Vegas Alternate History

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  @TheOmegaInitiative · 2 years ago · pinned

  You know I had to gone done do the Joshua route 😄. But what do you think would have happened differently?

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  @joshuahoffman1458 · 2 years ago

  For anyone thinking Joshua Graham&apos;s survival unrealistic: this is still <b>MORE</b> realistic than what happened to him in game.

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  @minesimusic1447 · 2 years ago

  This turned from alternate history to Joshua Grahm fan fiction. <br><br>I like it.

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  @Joshua12450 · 2 years ago

  Lanius: butchers tons of troops in order for a minor gain<br><br>Caesar: awww, you&apos;re sweet!<br><br>Joshua: butchers tons of troops in order for a minor gain <br><br>Caesar: Hello, crucifixion resources!!

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  @ZerosOnMySix · 2 years ago

  I really liked the idea of legionnaires using road signs for shields would make a pretty cool mod

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  @daverunningpresidentofther1185 · 1 year ago

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOr9C3dfT4M&amp;t=2490">41:30</a> &quot;Caeser a second Repconn rocket has struck Hoover Dam&quot;

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  @Mogadishumedias · 2 years ago

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOr9C3dfT4M&amp;t=2495">41:35</a> <br>“A plane just hit the tower sir”

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  @nathanpierce7681 · 2 years ago

  For anyone wondering why Caesar was trying his best to get rid of Joshua, remember that even as the Malpais Legate, he was already a threat to his uncontested rule of the Legion. Caesar may be the brains, and it may be HIS Legion, but Joshua was the one putting in the work, fighting on the front with his legionaries and using his civilized upbringing to his advantage in warfare. Caesar was not a warrior, Joshua was. Caesar was merely putting on the front of the Son of Mars, he swears like a sailor if you tick him off enough, but Joshua is genuinely affable, stoic, calm, and measured.<br><br>Joshua would inevitably become more popular than Caesar if he was left alive, and that simply would not do. Coupled with the fact that he&apos;s the only other person who knows that the Legion is built on a lie, a twisted, poisonous idea of the Old World&apos;s history, and the fact that he knows Caesar&apos;s less than impressive upbringing, well...<br><br>Yeah, I&apos;m more surprised Joshua lasted this long with hos many times Caesar tried to hold him under the bus.<br><br>Also, I love how poetic the endings are, and even the events leading up to that. I get the idea that the legionaries left Joshua alone both out of fear for his power and respect for when he commanded them and their comrades in battle, so I can totally see him taking control of the Legion and reforming it to be the REAL civilization that Caesar was simply pretending it was.<br><br>Thesis, antithesis, synthesis. Caesar&apos;s own idea works against him. The thesis is the brutality of the Malpais Legate, the antithesis is the Hanged Man, and the synthesis is what becomes of the Legion after he delivers his judgement on the dictator that used it to ravage the wasteland.<br><br>Another thing, the mental image of the NCR stumbling upon a reformed Legion is hilarious. I&apos;m just imagining every trooper grabbing their weapons only to reluctantly stand down after realizing that the legionaries are just spreading around gospels and helping settlers build around the area. Maybe their humiliating defeat in the Mojave finally taught their government a lesson and it found its way back to the original ideas the NCR was founded on. Maybe it finally stopped being an imperialist nation ripping itself apart by expanding too much.<br><br>Hopefully.

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  @mongolia1279 · 2 years ago

  It would be awesome to see the “What if the NCR lost the first Battle of Hoover Dam?” (Basically what’s going on at the NCR during these events.)

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  @Omnywrench · 2 years ago

  The name &quot;The Hanged Man&quot; here is rather fitting in more ways than one, if you compare Joshua&apos;s transformation into The Hanged Man with the Tarot card of the same name. Generally, The Hanged Man card represents a pause in one&apos;s journey to contemplate and reflect on things, to consider new paths and choices ahead while considering the choices you already made to get this far, especially your mistakes and regrets. It can also symbolize choosing to make a sacrifice in order to undo or amend your mistakes.

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  @limecatcher1482 · 2 years ago (edited)

  its oddly poetic how, in the timeline where joshua spares caesar, he basically turns the legion into a more militant version of the followers. full circle there.

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  @taxult · 2 years ago

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOr9C3dfT4M&amp;t=360">6:00</a> I can just imagine Caesar going like Napoleon in Waterloo;<br><br>&quot;EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE WON HERE, YOU HAVE LOST.&quot;

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