Identity Politics: Lionel Shriver & Douglas Murray | The Spectator

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• TU

  @tunkyslug · 6 years ago

  I love how Lionel disagrees with Douglas and he just listens, accepts what’s being said and they move on. Sad that these days that’s so impressive!

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• KE

  @keyboarddancers7751 · 6 years ago (edited)

  I'm black; I was born in England and grew up here. I have never viewed myself "as a black man" specifically or as a badge. I got dragged into some equality/diversity forums as a "token speaker" back in the mid '90s and I can honestly say I did not know what I was talking about and on reflection I feel very embarrassed about it. I HATE all this "woke" shit!

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• JE

  @jeffberlin4179 · 6 years ago

  Douglas is a gentleman of rare and extraordinary quality. He never feels the need to use his private personal life as a shield or to add any weight to his opinions. What a treasure.

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• BU

  @BuceGar · 6 years ago

  "You can't awaken someone who's pretending to sleep."

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• MI

  @Millie-kj5ju · 6 years ago

  So pleased and grateful you uploaded this, wanted to be there but couldn’t. Speakers like Douglas Murray and Lionel Shriver help me to feel that I’m not going bat sh*t crazy in this increasingly insane society

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• SI

  @simonheaney8721 · 6 years ago

  Douglas is in his prime now . Incredibly insightful on today's most important issues that affect western culture p

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• DI

  @digoryjohns2018 · 6 years ago

  Shriver: <br>&quot;Those who are oppressed have no reason to become unoppressed.&quot;<br>&quot;The worst thing that can happen to any liberaton movement is getting what it wants.&quot;<br><br>This in the first six minutes!<br><br>Beautifully and succinctly put. &nbsp;She unfailingly puts her finger on the very essence of moral hazard and the flaw of the entire self-satisfied, parastic identity edifice, as if on a repulsive blue bottle emptying its guts onto your favourite farmhouse cheese and sucking up its fill without any appreciation of its provenance.<br><br>Lionel Shriver and Douglas Murray give me hope for the future.

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• NA

  @nathanbrammer8471 · 6 years ago

  Im a big fan of Douglas Murray, but Lionel Shriver is incredible, this is the first time I have had the pleasure to listen to her.

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• AN

  @anne3969 · 6 years ago

  Brilliant - very reassuring to know there is some sanity in this world.

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• HI

  @hivicar · 5 years ago (edited)

  Shriver is absolutely nailing the &quot;woke&quot; thing here. Her take on the well-meaning but &quot;misguided&quot; young people wasting precious time while being spiritually &apos;non-nutritious&quot; is exactly the way more of us should see it.

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• SH

  @shughy1 · 4 years ago

  Am seeing this 2 years late, but so glad to hear these two trade such important viewpoints, it&apos;s a relief to hear voices of sanity.

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• HA

  @HaryanGláeddyv · 6 years ago

  Had a lovely time at the talk, would happily attend more, bring them up North!

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