Is This the Biggest Plot Hole In Star Trek? | Trek, Actually Comment Responses

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  @emmamacfarlane8137 · 4 years ago

  The biggest legacy of Star Trek is that Uhura doesn’t look revolutionary any more from the point of view of a 21st century newcomer. Its influence helped create the world we live in.

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• KA

  @KalaniMakutu · 4 years ago

  Humanity hasn&apos;t evolved past holodeck pranks.<br>&quot;Computer, remove the plank.&quot;

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• NE

  @neesi1570 · 4 years ago

  According to Shatner&apos;s book Star Trek Movie Memories, the script for TUC also had Uhura saying something like &quot;Yeah, but would you want your daughter to marry one?&quot;, but the line was dropped altogether after Nichols flat out refused to say it. &nbsp;Good for her.

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• RA

  @rationaltrekker2509 · 3 years ago

  Regarding the expectation that diverse people would be treated with respect in a workplace: That was driven home by the episode &quot;Balance of Terror&quot; when Kirk tells Stiles to leave his bigotry in his quarters. I was 8+ in the seventies and that scene really hit me. I work in a very diverse workplace now (a library ) and I couldn&apos;t imagine bigotry being tolerated. In fact, I&apos;m low level management and if I saw it, I might even subconsciously call up Kirk&apos;s rebuke of Stiles. The message was clear to me at a very early age: you just don&apos;t act like Stiles. Period. Full stop. No, &quot;well, it depends on the context…&quot; You just DON&apos;T DO IT.

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• EM

  @emmamacfarlane8137 · 4 years ago

  ‘Didn’t reuse any elements or characters from TOS’… ironically the inverse is true. TNG actually reused a lot of unused ideas from TOS and Phase II in its early seasons, and that actually is the reason it took so long to find its own identity.

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• CH

  @CharlesJohnson-tp7qq · 4 years ago

  &quot;It&apos;s a prank, bro! You&apos;ve been in the Holodeck for two days!&quot;<br><br>&quot;I&apos;ve been eating holographic food for two days? No wonder I&apos;m so damn hungry.&quot;

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• SH

  @shibolinemress8913 · 3 years ago (edited)

  While it&apos;s true that Prime Spock never forced a meld in TOS, Mirror Spock did it to McCoy in &quot;Mirror, Mirror&quot;. McCoy didn&apos;t scream in pain (if memory serves), but his totally blank expression was chilling in it&apos;s own right.<br><br>On another note, I love the way that Vulcans were portrayed in &quot;Mirror, Mirror&quot;, because it shows aspects of their character that are always there, but - mostly - under control in the Prime Universe. It reminds me of Spock&apos;s chilling statement about his father in &quot;Journey to Babel&quot;: &quot;If there were a reason, my father is quite capable of killing. Logically and efficiently.&quot; Yikes!

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• LE

  @Leaglestalon · 4 years ago (edited)

  There is a possible reason how Barkley got away with the &quot;impersonations&quot; of other crew member. Reference to the episode where &quot;La Forge&quot; created a holographic version of the warp core designer. It was only based on information that could have been accessed .The Holodeck filled in the rest of the blanks. This ended up with a fantasy version of the real person. In Barkley case I felt the same applies. Only going with information able to be accessed and altering and filling in the blanks to his Fantasy. Both counts still was very intrusive don&apos;t get me wrong there. But it would explain how he got around what was later mentioned in DS9 as against laws or mandates set.

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• RU

  @russrollins9978 · 4 years ago

  If I&apos;m not mistaken, the consent issue was brought up in the DS9 episode where the great Jeffrey Combs played an alien that wanted Quark to get him a holosuite version of Major Kira. Quark informed him that it was against Federation law to create holographic images of real people without their consent, but when threatened proceeded to secretly scan Kira for the program the alien wanted. The way it turned out was priceless.

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• PO

  @pokepress · 4 years ago

  For the “Holodeck prank” idea, I seem to recall there was a “Starfleet Academy” novel back in the 90’s where the cadets were sent on a mission to space dock and ended up having to fend off an attack, only to learn in the end they had been in a Holodeck for most of the time.

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• DA

  @davidalan528 · 3 years ago

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZKgOvmQd6c&amp;t=3032">50:32</a> I thought Sarek thought Spock’s katra was with Kirk until he learned they were physically separated in the chamber when Spock died.

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• AL

  @Allegheny500 · 3 years ago (edited)

  Ahh, the poor redshirt that has to mop the holodeck floor. That said I would have written a holodeck scene where one of the crew was engaged in building a virtual model railroad. Monorail trains levitating through miniature 23rd century buildings.

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