Upset Pilot TURNS ON HIS OWN WITHOUT CLEARANCE at San Francisco!

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• VA

  @VASAviation · 2 years ago · pinned

  Thoughts?

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• LE

  @letsdriveswusa · 2 years ago

  SFO's got to figure something out here. Yes, it's busy and tight, but it's even busier when you've got to bring the same aircraft in multiple times for them to do it safely because of spacing. TCAS go-arounds seem to be routine there, and on top of adding to the traffic, it's a hole in the cheese just waiting for more to join in.

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• CA

  @caahacky · 2 years ago

  The Air Canada guy said they stopped because a tow was looking like it was going to cross in front of them, ATC said you were told to cross so you should have crossed - but if the tow was in the wrong it wouldn't have helped to be in the right when you t boned him.

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• PA

  @parlaydave154 · 2 years ago

  Tower: Advise when ready to copy number. Number is..<br>Pilot: Number has been copied, that will be all. Goodday.<br><br>lol

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• JA

  @jamesbartholomew1481 · 2 years ago (edited)

  ATC: “Maintain Visual Separation”<br><br>United: <b>Maintains Visual Separation</b><br><br>ATC: “No not like that”

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• TH

  @thornament367 · 2 years ago

  ATC: “Maintain visual separation”<br>Pilot: <b>turns to avoid a dangerous situation</b><br>ATC: “hey you weren’t supposed to do that”<br>How does that make sense? UAL maintained visual sep and had to turn away

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• LL

  @lloyd28khz43 · 2 years ago

  Maintain visual separation... &nbsp; and United did that. &nbsp;No deviation in my opinion. United pilot likely filed a safety report instead of calling.

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  @TheTiktok4321 · 2 years ago

  San Francisco seems to either be understaffed, under trained, or under water. &nbsp;There seem to be more close calls here than anywhere else.

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• DA

  @DarthEvilicus · 2 years ago

  The parallels in SFO are notoriously close together and generate many Resolution Adversaries.

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• SU

  @Sugah_J · 1 year ago

  I’m a pilot for a US airline and operate in and out of SFO often. It says in our SOP that if we’re flying into a specific list of airports (SFO is one of them) we can, at the captain’s discretion, turn our TCAS system to TA only (it will inhibit Resolution Advisories and thus prevent us from going around when it’s not needed). <br>That being said, we must have the preceding aircraft in sight at all times, be able to maintain separation from them AND we can only turn off the RA function when we’ve been vectored onto a visual approach and have been told to maintain visual separation from the aircraft we have in sight.<br>Going around is always an option, but from my experience if you go around every time you have an unjustified RA into SFO you’d go around more than you’d actually land.

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• RO

  @ropefreeze1660 · 1 year ago

  To be fair, his reasoning was perfectly logical. He got an RA due to the parallel aircraft last time (he probably knew whether it was due to altitude or separation or whatnot) and knew that he was getting ready to do Einstein&apos;s definition of insanity. Doing the same thing and expecting a different result!

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• JO

  @josh3771 · 2 years ago

  Good on the United Flight crew for standing their ground and not accepting a chaotic and potentially dangerous approach

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