This is the Upper Echelon of Framing

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  @MikeyDonna · 6 months ago

  Some years back I hired a carpenter to help me put a pitched roof on our flat topped track house. I wanted it to look like it was built from the start as a pitched roof house . Neighbors around me converted theirs by knocking the parapet off and setting trusses top of the flat ceiling rafters. That never looked right to me , so I hired this carpenter to help me. He measured every thing and made a material list. Standing in front of all the lumber I had borrowed the money for he laid out two rafters as patterns and said “cut me 26 of these and 26 of these” I said maybe we should see if these fit first ! Of course they fit perfect. I was amazed at how that simple roof fit. Looking down the ends of the rafters and seeing a few less than an inch out of line he says” if you’re damned old house had been square they would have been perfect”.

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• ST

  @SteveRogers-ru6qj · 6 months ago

  when I started in construction, in the early 80s, I knew that I wanted to be something more than just a nail pounder. I wanted to be the guy that they called on to cut the complicated roof, or to build the spiral staircase. I wanted to be the guy who was always in demand. I bought his books and I studied his methods. they have served me well. I have never had to look for work.

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• MI

  @MisterFinny · 6 months ago

  As a fourth generation union carpenter, you can never appreciate knowledge like this too much. I still see tips and tricks that my grandfather and great grandfather used to

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• GR

  @gregwaters7830 · 6 months ago

  I served my apprenticeship out in Anchorage, and they forced us to manually calculate all the rafter lengths, to lay out all the marks, etc. I subsequently moved down to the beach communities of Southern California, and I would roll up on a project with a complex roof, measure between the lines on the deck, and go home and sit in front of the TV and perform all the calcs by hands. The next day I would cut and layout all the ridges, hips, valleys, common-jack-hip-and-valley rafters. I would always set the ridges in a support an inch low, so I could raise it up, once a couple common rafters were set.<br>The saving grace in that kind of knowledge is that I had very limited balance, so walking walls, etc. was beyond my ability. The only way I could stack my own roofs was with a scaffold.

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• AN

  @andyhall9634 · 6 months ago

  Worked and learned from a man like this for ten years, name was Brent Peel on the central Oregon coast. He could figure and cut almost every part on the ground with numbers he figured on a $1 Casio pocket calculator and a couple of measurements on the ground. I’d probably be half the framer I am today if I hadn’t had him as a teacher and paid attention to what he had to learn.Thanks Brent!

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• NO

  @nottoombz · 4 months ago

  shoulda been listening to this man 20 years ago

• JA

  @JasonYates-c4m · 6 months ago

  I started my career on the same job at Spanish Trails, stacking the same condominiums for Gary Day construction. &nbsp; Richard Lucero cut all of Gary’s roofs.

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• DH

  @DH-uk9px · 6 months ago

  Been in enough old houses to know every hip is a wear point, and every valley a leak waiting to happen. So while I can appreciate the skill in being able to create a complicated roof, I&apos;ve never understood why anyone would want one.

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• JO

  @josephgomes8543 · 6 months ago

  Retired Union guy here. I love your channel. Always great info. I probably won&apos;t be framing too many more roofs at my age but i will get these books for reading and make sure they get passed on to the future builders....

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• JO

  @johnhall3095 · 6 months ago

  Hi mate I started 1966 as Carpenter we cut hole roof on ground &nbsp;on saw tresses &nbsp;every part of roof &nbsp;and fall in to place in Australia we had call Little Red Book &nbsp;for roof &nbsp;all lengths &nbsp; of roof &nbsp; &nbsp; set out spray &nbsp;clear paint &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;first nail gun was in 1969 what good thing good show mate thx John

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• TE

  @te01guy · 6 months ago

  I am a 30+ year mechanical engineer who has forgotten more of the complicated math they made us learn than I have ever used. I always loved geometry though, and the fundamental principles that make up our world. I look at some of these modern rooflines and marvel at the fact that they are cut and installed with relatively simple tools by skilled craftsmen such as yourself. I might be able to attempt some of these cuts, but I would fall back on the crutch of drawing it full scale in CAD before I ever attempted it, and construction timelines simply don’t allow for that

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• AA

  @AA369-w8i · 6 months ago

  Just when i thought i was hearing upper echelon info on framing, this wise soul launchs into a deep observtion of how the ego can resist, obstruct, or refuse to allow our minds to become open to new ideas! This guy is a masterful Teacher of the highest order, chiefly because he refuses to let his ego over-ride, or sabotage his humble, curious spirit.

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