The Biggest Mistake in DND History? | Dragonlance Fifth Age

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  @SteveMillerTalks · 3 years ago · pinned

  Thank you for the kind words. Even all these years later, I rank "Heroes of Defiance" and "Citadel of Light" among the best items I've done. (One of your viewers called your video to my attention, and I'm glad he did!)

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  @TrampasWhiteman · 3 years ago

  This is a nice examination of the Fifth Age era of Dragonlance and seeks to treat it with the fairness it deserves.

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  @injunjoe8967 · 3 years ago

  This is a really good video. AD&D2e players often have this nostalgia filter which makes it a harder pill to swallow; Weis and Hickman had left TSR by the time the AD&D2e boxed set in 92' had released; the gaming materials diverged wildly from Hickman and Weis original; Dragonlance books kept TSR afloat but Ad&D2e did not sell as well as people like to pretend.

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  @TheRealStannex · 6 months ago

  Thanks for this, Jordan. Bill Connors just pointed it my way. A terrific review of the DL:5A game line from soup to nuts ... and I'm honored by the positive mention my little contributions got. I'm only sorry it took me three years to tell you.

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  @Rob-nq6br · 3 years ago

  We never did that game in did we? I wonder if the SAGA system would have been served better by it's own setting or maybe one of the less "known" ones? I think it would have been a brilliant way to re-introduce Al Qadim, especially how that setting has an emphasis on fates and destiny, a perfect fit for the players "choosing" when they succeed!

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  @weldonchen3709 · 3 years ago

  Hi Jordan. &nbsp;Wonderful video that showcases the positives about the SAGA system.<br>I felt, part of the SAGA problem was the boxed sets, themselves. &nbsp;They get crushed over time. &nbsp;Even the box in your video looks frayed. &nbsp;Book sellers didn&apos;t know where to place these on the shelf. &nbsp;They didn&apos;t know to cross into the novel section and place it with their shared worlds shelves with Dragonlance books, or place these smaller boxes with the game section, without the Dragonlance brand support. &nbsp;<br><br>Also, you missed the fact that &quot;cards + role &gt; Narrator-assigned difficulty&quot; is exactly the D&amp;D3.x&apos;s &quot;d20 + skill &gt; DC&quot; &nbsp;Parts of SAGA evolved into D&amp;D3.X game system.<br><br>My theory: dual support of SAGA and AD&amp;D2/D&amp;D killed SAGA and TSR. &nbsp;It&apos;s the same blunder of splitting the fan base into buying different products. &nbsp;or split with different game settings. &nbsp;WotC learned this lesson in D&amp;D3. &nbsp;Kill AD&amp;D2. &nbsp;Make a huge supporting system with the open gaming license to get immediate fanbase adoption. License out Dragonlance to Margaret Weis Productions to support D&amp;D3.5. &nbsp;<br><br>Lastly, I&apos;m a big collector of Dragonlance too. &nbsp;I have an extra copy of &quot;The Duntollik Run.&quot; &nbsp;We should talk.

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  @chicochiggy4976 · 1 year ago

  Great video as seems to be your standard my dude!<br>I hatetedthe fifth age novels. All seemed rushed and just a way to sell more product. Put me off dragonlance for too long...<br>Back on for a couple years now and actually played in the setting. Had fun with it

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  @AlVainactual · 3 years ago (edited)

  This is amazing. I never knew about 5th Age and this is all fresh to me! I love Dragonlance, it was one of my first encounters with D&amp;D. The SAGA system seems very interesting too!

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  @Panzerbjrn · 1 year ago

  I never played the saga system, but I think I would hate it based on this descripiton of it :-]

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  @Hornedbear · 1 year ago

  SAGA was a fantastic rules set - we still use the MSH system for Supers games, and 5th Age gets broken out when we want something quick and fun. <br><br>Great video.

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  @ChenHsunChiu · 3 years ago

  I have the dragonlance SAGA core rule box, and I love the way it points to roleplaying.

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  @NikoTeaJay · 3 years ago

  I don&apos;t play RPGs but a video on the subject is fascinating.

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