Succession: Old Money vs. New Money Explained On TV

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• OL

  @oldmoneyluxury · 3 years ago · pinned

  COMMENT: Agree or disagree? What do you think will happen at the end of Succession?

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• AW

  @awoods910 · 3 years ago

  I just want to say that Connor Roy was interested in politics from a very young age

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• FR

  @frankenviews4069 · 3 years ago

  That's why we have this show. New Money has difficulty with executing succession. That's where the drama comes from. Old money has long held traditions and systems already in place for succession. If Logan was simply more emotionally mature and less insecure, he could have easily set up plans for succession years before any serious health concerns.

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• NI

  @nikki-t00be · 3 years ago

  This is the crux of the whole show. The reason Old Money is... well, old, is because of how well they manage to transfer their wealth to successive generations, and maintain close family ties. The Roy’s can’t even manage to do it once.

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• JO

  @jonathancohen479 · 3 years ago

  Nan Pierce inviting her housekeeper to have a drink with the family is clearly a sign of old money mannerisms.  Old money grow up with domestic staff and see them as part of the family whereas the Roy family would view them as employees who are socially beneath them.

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• JO

  @jonyb123a · 3 years ago

  The Roy family "halftime" huddle during the episode at the Pierce's compound was some serious-ass comedy.

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• JA

  @jacksonblitzkreg9774 · 3 years ago (edited)

  Another point at where this is highlighted very well would be: Caroline Collingwood’s comments about her husband. How he “bought his own furniture”. This is referencing British aristocrats that would inherit their family stately home, fully loaded with old furniture and paintings. To add to this she made a rather deign comment regarding him not being posh as his dad was a doctor. Even though the working class in England would consider a man like Peter, (a clearly privately educated man with parents in the middle class) to be in fact, posh.

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• HI

  @hiddenriverarts · 3 years ago

  It is about refinement. It is about being cultured. The Roys are barbarians in comparison. The Pierces are about the Trivium, the Liberal Arts, knowing classical languages and ancient history. The 3 Roy children are representative of business school values. The only Roy who could, conceivably, thrive in the Pierce family is Connor, with his love of history, and the arts. He is such an odd duck to his father and siblings; but, were he raised among the Pierces, he would have felt seen and valued. His best qualities would have been nurtured.

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• HI

  @HiddenWen · 3 years ago

  Actually, the Roys are quite "stealth wealth" for new money. They aren't driving gold-wrapped RR Cullinans, rather they travel in pretty typical business mobiles like the Mercedes S-class, Cadillac Escalades, and Lincoln Navigators. None of them wear "hype beast" style clothing, they dress in well-tailored and timeless looking clothing. The only new money give away is their attitude.

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• JA

  @jaimicottrill2831 · 3 years ago

  There was an interesting part in the Netflix show "Inventing Anna" about the difference between new money and old money. One of the people fooled by Anna said he was convinced she was old money because of how she ordered wine. New money will order the most expensive wine, even if they know nothing about it whereas old money will know which bottles are quality and will order based on where the wine is from. There are many subtle difference like that if you know how to look.

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• EU

  @EughhBrothereughh · 3 years ago (edited)

  Its quite funny that to us they're all "rich people" but in their own rich people world there's an hierarchy in where they feel looked down at and mocked even, the micro aggressions. Imagine Roy's feeling like they dont belong in a room full of  people like the Pierces, feel inferior because they know they're in the lower level compared to old money families. I wonder how does that make them feel having to always try hard and impress and flex their assets or use other ways to feel included in that "elite circle" but they still be looked down at. Kinda sad but funny at the same time.

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• FA

  @fahda04 · 3 years ago

  I think you missed the point of that episode and the series. Sure the old money/ new money dynamic is what flies at you when you initially meet the pierces compared to the Roys. But the writers go on to ridicule the pretentiousness of the pierces. The shakespeare recitations, the fake modesty. Nan inviting the housekeeper to have drinks with them but then later stealing credit for the housekeeper's cooking. And then Ultimately the negotiation scene where you realize that despite all the high mindedness, she's actually all just about the money. Notice the scene where Logan ups the offer. You can literally see her gulp down saliva due to greed at the prospect of more money. The writers just go to show you that despite the pierces supposed old money status, they're just the Roys a couple of generations down the line. It's not as cut and dry as old money= stoic, refined, new money= greedy, rash. The writing on Succession is too smart for that.

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