Could the Phantom Troupe take down Meruem?

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  @SethTheProgrammer · 6 years ago (edited) · pinned

  I&apos;ve seen some people comment about Kite and his scaling so I&apos;ll answer some questions and stuff here most of them don&apos;t actually really effect anything in the video but I&apos;ll clarify: <br><br>For Kite&apos;s near death ability, it should be important that it&apos;s supposed to stop him from dying, reincarnation is a post death ability. &nbsp;Now while I do think it&apos;s heavily implied it causes him to reincarnate, I still think that it being a &quot;good spin&quot; and causing Pitou to genuinely think he&apos;s a good fight implies more than that, and amplified his ability. &nbsp;Remember, Knuckle, who is scared of Pitou and gets bullied to oblivion by Youpi, is stated to physically equal to Kite, and Kite is never once ever implied to be near Pitou&apos;s level. &nbsp;Even Killua doesn&apos;t even bring Kite up to scare Netero, despite knowing Kite&apos;s ability, he brings up Hisoka and Illumi, which further implies an amp to me, even Ging only theorizes what Kite&apos;s ability does, it&apos;s never confirmed so of course I&apos;m not going to claim I 100% know either. &nbsp;I&apos;m not saying it&apos;s OBJECTIVELY true, and in fact, Kite isn&apos;t important really AT ALL for scaling the Troupe. &nbsp;This is the same for me saying he bodied leader and officer ants, which didn&apos;t have nen. &nbsp;Once again, the Troupe vs the Ants is moreso class scaling, then actually relying on Kite for anything. &nbsp;Even looking back I could&apos;ve removed Kite from the entire video and nothing would change. &nbsp;And even if you want to absolutely say that Kite didn&apos;t get any amp from Pre-Death, then he&apos;d have simply gotten an amp from getting a good spin. &nbsp;<br><br>I&apos;ve also heard an argument that Hisoka is stronger after dying. &nbsp;And while post mortem nen is stronger, there is no proof Hisoka has permanent post mortem nen, if anything his bungee gum had post mortem nen which he used to revive himself. &nbsp;(Reviving implying he&apos;s not dead) &nbsp;Only his bungee gum that restarted his heart is confirmed to be stronger.<br><br>Also people are commenting on the arm wrestling and nen, saying the nen is not involved in the arm wrestling... Which I also said in this video and confirmed was absolutely the case even in combat scaling. &nbsp;I don&apos;t see why people are complaining about that.<br><br>And this video is under the premise that they&apos;re in a confrontation with Meruem, not that they couldn&apos;t somehow find a way to nuke him or something.. &nbsp;Obviously a rose would beat him, but that&apos;s not the point of the video the video is talking about combat scaling.<br><br>Also I&apos;m aware Kalluto is a boy, and that Pitou is an It, when I wrote the script I try to imagine the characters and just pictured a female and usually give them their usual gender identity, kind of like what Killua does with Alluka but without the absolute confirmation they want it that way, which I probably shouldn&apos;t do. &nbsp;My bad. &nbsp;I even called Pitou a girl one time despite calling it an it like 10 other times in the video (it can also be referred to as he if you&apos;re mainly manga but I use it to be indifferent), it&apos;s a common error I make when writing.<br><br>&quot;Youpi couldn&apos;t instantly defeat Knuckle or Shoot&quot; &nbsp;Youpi wasn&apos;t at his full potential and didn&apos;t understand how to use Nen until the very end, and it&apos;s implied he can evolve further beyond that. &nbsp;Pitou doesn&apos;t have the same weaknesses in talent, and was pretty much fully evolved from the get-go. &nbsp;Youpi being 10x stronger and it being stated &quot;It is impossible for Shoot to beat Youpi&quot; even without Nen abilities or any strategy does in fact confirm what I&apos;m saying, it is not an anti-feat against me. &nbsp; Youpi is also specifically stated to be non strategic and wasn&apos;t even going all vs Shoot with it being confirmed he was absolutely going to win even without nen abilities or strategy (Volume 26, Page 16, Page 39)<br><br>&quot;If you use the stat books Komugi can beat Zushi!!&quot; &nbsp;No, the stat books only have Komugi with higher total stats than Zushi, but these stats include things like Talent, Intelligence, Willpower and so on, which she used purely for board games. &nbsp;Zushi and Komugi are both just stated to be bottom tiers in terms of strength and combat ability but with Zushi actually having nen ability whereas Komugi has virtually 0. &nbsp; Total stats =|= stronger in the HxH databooks.<br><br>&quot;The series tries to convey fights through Randomness!&quot; &nbsp;We&apos;ve seen plenty of fights and have plenty of information on straight up 1v1 fights in HxH without &quot;randomness.&quot; &nbsp;And I hardly can recall any reason why anything I said in the video is something that can be somehow narrative randomized in a VS vacuum, especially when I&apos;m using pretty objective statements about their scaling like &quot;The most formiddable character they&apos;ve ever seen!&quot; &quot;It was impossible for him to win!&quot; -Narrator &quot;This character blitzes people relative to this character!&quot;, &quot;He can one shot people stronger than this character, therefore-&quot; &nbsp;etc. &nbsp;Bizarre and irrelevant argument.<br><br>All in all I think most criticisms of the video are over minor details and not my main argumentation, but even then I&apos;m finding a lot of these &quot;criticisms&quot; a little off balance and don&apos;t really make a lot of sense. &nbsp; I think my only real screw up was with calling Kalluto a girl and not giving numeorus prophylactic counters for some of these casual VS thoughts in the comments, but the video was 32 minutes as was when I recorded it and was cut down. &nbsp;Didn&apos;t want to make a 1 hour long video countering every conceivable idea people could come up with, like &quot;what if they just run away and grab a nuke and nuke meruem in this VS Battle and power scaling setting!!!&quot; like, c&apos;mon..<br><br>&quot;Morel was only at 35% and Pouf didn&apos;t dominate him&quot; &nbsp;Pouf psychologically manhandled Morel then took his pipe and threw it in a river with zero effort. &nbsp;Also, in HxH, Aura is not like Ki in Dragon Ball where your power decreases hyper linearly as your energy does. &nbsp;For example, Knuckle Explains that if you have 10,000 Aura and you punch, maybe you use 80 Aura per punch, and your ultimate move uses like 1,000 through 2,000. &nbsp;It&apos;s more like a gas tank, not a power level, although, it allows you to put more gas into your attacks if you use that much aura if that makes sense. &nbsp;So unless Morel has an attack that uses over 35% of his total aura in one attack, which not even Gon&apos;s enhancer attack that amps his punch by 10x necessarily does, there&apos;s no reason to suspect that this 35% capacity is some serious nerf. &nbsp;Especially if they only fought for an instant and all that happened was Pouf bullied him and flew away to find Pitou and Meruem.

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  @nootfluke · 6 years ago

  Yeah, but Bungee gum contains both properties of rubber and gum

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  @darkghostgamings22 · 6 years ago

  Short answer: no<br><br><br>Long answer: lol no

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  @voidglitch2556 · 6 years ago

  Hard to believe meruem can deal with the properties of rubber AND gum at the same time

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  @dilankudva8731 · 5 years ago

  beginning of the video: You might be thinking that the troupe has no chance of defeating meruem but let&apos;s look at their abilities. End of the video: The troupe really doesn&apos;t have any chance of defeating meruem

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  @notang333l · 6 years ago

  Meruem: <b>basically god</b><br><br>chrollo and Hisoka: <b>gum and a book</b>

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  @FederalBureausOfInvestigation · 6 years ago

  Nah fam, these chimera ants are nothing compared to my RAIDS bug spray

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  @mderveni9144 · 6 years ago

  &quot;Godspeed, which is faster than any other character&quot;<br>&quot;Godspeed is surpassing the human limits&quot;<br><br><br><br><br>Meanwhile grandma following killua on a bike like a boss.

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  @BblackCalder · 3 years ago

  Meruem survived a nuclear blast, which astute viewers will know have the properties of both nuclear and blast. No chance the Troupe gets near beating him.

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  @jharmonisabeast7344 · 6 years ago

  Netero: pituo is stronger than me. <br>Gon:aight imma hit puberty real quick

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  @Serularo · 6 years ago

  More like &quot; How fast can Meruem kill all of the Phantom Troupe &quot;

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  @zhixunpek3200 · 6 years ago

  &quot;Some people think hisoka can give meruem some trouble alone&quot;<br>Meruem: The most powerful character yet<br>Hisoka: I have the power of both rubber and gum

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