The Joe Henderson Controversy - The Michael Brecker Podcast

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  @thelonious-dx9vi · 4 years ago

  I completely agree with Joe, that he should get more juice in the pantheon.  Colossally massive and deep jazz musician.  Hell, even I don't listen to him like I ought to, even though I feel this way.  It's something I'll try to fix in the new year.

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  @TheJazz625 · 4 years ago

  Love Henderson. My number one tenor player of all time.  Unmistakable tone, and fantastic solos on what ever he played.  I don't know his situation way back and maybe he had every right to be slightly upset he wasn't getting the recognition he deserved.

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• RI

  @richporter9461 · 4 years ago

  I had the pleasure to spend some time with Joe at the 97 Toronto Downtown Jazz Festival. He had traffic stopped including the Streetcars, windows rolled down … people astounded at his &nbsp;language on his Sax ! After the show I was asked to visit Joe in back of the Van he was being driven around in !<br>That was the day I received an education in Jazz ! and making a new friend!! There is not a Day that goes by , that I think about Joe… honestly!!!

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• IA

  @ianbuxton8332 · 4 years ago

  As soon as Joe starts playing, that deep, grating tone is UNMISTAKABLY his. &nbsp;I&apos;d have recognised that it&apos;s him even if I&apos;d been blindfolded and totally unprepared for the question!!

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  @wilfig · 1 year ago

  You can really hear the Joe Henderson&apos;s influence in Brecker on the track &quot;Cat&apos;s Cradle&quot;, on his &quot;Two Blocks From The Edge&quot; LP.

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• FC

  @FCntertainr · 4 years ago

  Awesome performance! Alphonso on bass and George Duke comping and soloing with some &nbsp;bad cats ! I can hear Joe&apos;s influence in Mike and Joe Farrell who were my favorites when I started listening to Jazz. Mike and Randy played &nbsp;on many records I bought then also. &nbsp;The 70s had great jazz so did the 60s. &nbsp;The 80s coming in had shit like this in Japan ? I went to concerts in the 80s and 90s when I could actually afford to. RIP to both Joes and Mike, &nbsp;glad they were here to bless us!

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  @arrjee9474 · 4 years ago

  I distinctly remember one of those articles, I think it was in Downbeat. I remember because my father in law, (𝙖 𝙧𝙚𝙣𝙤𝙬𝙣𝙚𝙙 𝙟𝙖𝙯𝙯 𝙞𝙘𝙤𝙣 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙨𝙝𝙖𝙡𝙡 𝙧𝙚𝙢𝙖𝙞𝙣 𝙖𝙣𝙤𝙣𝙮𝙢𝙤𝙪𝙨), was too happy to show it to me because he knew I was a Michael Brecker fan. Henderson said, in the interview, that he was kicking back in a hotel in Zurich, listening to the radio when Claus Ogerman came on featuring Brecker. He said suddenly he heard Brecker play note for note a passage that he could tell you the time and place when he had worked that stuff out himself, (𝙥𝙖𝙧𝙖𝙥𝙝𝙧𝙖𝙨𝙚𝙙 𝙖 𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙩𝙡𝙚). He also said, he understood that we all are influenced by our predecessors, but he was quite perturbed that he was copied so precisely. The sentiment was, (𝙖𝙨 𝙚𝙭𝙥𝙡𝙖𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙙 𝙗𝙮 𝙢𝙮 𝙛𝙖𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧 𝙞𝙣 𝙡𝙖𝙬), these young white musicians would come along and become stars while copying their musical ideas while they, (𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙘𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙨), never received nearly the recognition. I do recall, before that time after a session, mentioning to John Scofield, that Mike sounded like Joe and Randy sounded like Woody Shaw. He got excited and exclaimed, that’s right! He remembered Mike &amp; Randy sitting by the record player copying those two artists style and phrases. So there was some truth to it, but Mike eventually carved his own path and went beyond those early influences. It was an unfortunate misunderstanding.

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  @fdemar · 4 years ago

  I&apos;ve read a lot about the Henderson/Brecker controversy and am a big fan of both musicians, but I never really got it until I heard Joe&apos;s first few choruses of the blues. It contained so many of what I would have otherwise identified as &quot;Breckerisms&quot; that I was truly stunned. This doesn&apos;t really change my opinion of either musician at this point, but definitely gives me an understanding of how deep Joe&apos;s influence was on Michael. One more point - as others mentioned, the practice of sitting down and learning a solo note-for-note from a record is a common practice among jazz students trying to develop a vocabulary of jazz phrases and understand the theory of improvisation. It&apos;s not considered plagiarism.

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  @taftchatham7456 · 4 years ago

  I&apos;ve been a champion of Henderson since I was a jazz DJ. Some of his more out playing is probably too chaotic for most people, but he had a wonderful imagination and impeccable tone. In his later years, the soft, breathy tone he achieved (on &quot;Beatrice,&quot; say) was fantastic<br>.

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• GA

  @gatozagarra5438 · 4 years ago

  Alphonso Jhonson played with Philly&apos;s R&amp;B Frank Bey when he was very young.I had the pleasure to play on that band years later.

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• NE

  @neilloughran4437 · 4 years ago

  I recall Joe Henderson saying the same about Hadley Caliman. &nbsp;Hadley even replied on a forum about it...

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• HI

  @Hiphopdabop · 4 years ago

  The original transcript would clear alot up

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