The Language Of The New Music - Documentary about Wittgenstein and Schoenberg, 1985
241K views · Aug 25, 2016 · Music
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@thomas.vanderzwan · 1 year ago
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRI_ZSh6iF4&t=651">10:51</a> That is about the rarest photograph of Ludwig Wittgenstein I have ever seen.
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@freepagan · 7 years ago
Let's not forget that Schönberg still taught traditional harmony to his students. He emphasized that you had to have a well-grounded knowledge of said harmony before moving towards "free tonal" composing. In other words, the established rules had to be mastered before they could be broken. This shows the lasting importance of learning music theory for the musician and composer, down to the present day.
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@Pulsonar · 5 years ago
Wittgensteins family was one with the most contrasting fortunes I’ve ever heard of. <br>Not even fabulous wealth could offset the streak of madness that ran through the many brilliant minds in their family.
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@Daniel_and_the_Lions · 9 years ago (edited)
What a marvelous documentary. Some really wonderful insights by Mr. Nupen. Illuminating two eminently important individuals in the development of our culture. It is also so beautifully edited and scored. A work of genius about two geniuses. <br><br>I've felt a growing affinity for the music of Schoenberg for the last 5 years (I'm 33). I've always sensed that there was something essential being expressed in the music. However, I felt, and still do feel occasionally, that something was blocking me from getting inside the music, from having a direct relationship to it. After watching this masterpiece, I feel as though I have been partially purged from the fetters of my own musical conditioning and will be able to listen with a fresh perspective. <br><br>I will rewatch this documentary many times, of that I"m sure.
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@Kurzula5150 · 6 years ago
I've always loved Schoenberg. Testimony to both his and Wittgenstein's theories regarding the limitations of language is demonstrated by the 21st century phenomenon of cats playing piano.
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@jean-pierredelaporte · 3 years ago (edited)
I worked with Michael Nupen on the script. Although he was Adornian he had little affinity with Schönberg. He viewed Wittgenstein as a positivist and was new to architecture. Nevertheless he was intellectually adventurous and absorbed new ideas into expansive paraphrases which work quite well in the commentary here.
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@constancewalsh3646 · 5 years ago
Pure manna,. My soul has longed for this tone and depth in a documentary on what is most relevant. In the depths of a Covid world, such attitudes of intelligence and the truths of loss, are themselves lost to this immature culture addicted to convenience and the idea that disaster and suffering of this sort does not belong here. The great souls of the last world war had substance beyond imagining. Bless those who filmed, photographed, wrote, and who today give the art of the documentary to those of us left to recognize. Thank you so much.
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@montsemajanmartinez9824 · 6 years ago
Worthy of consideration in these contexts is<br>Ein Brief<br>by<br>Hugo Von Hofmannstahl<br><br>(the Lord Chandos letter)<br><br>Von Hofmannstahl deserves more attention than he currently receives, and all of his work is shot through with the same frisson and ennui as those treated in this documentary.
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@gerooo9095 · 1 year ago
Arnold schoenberg achieved realism in music, a true genius!
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@MsAdo1 · 5 years ago
They don’t make television like this anymore.
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@annip5573 · 9 years ago
Thanks evers so much for sharing this film for free!!! And for all the others you share.
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@athelstaneofconingsburgh · 9 years ago
What an outstanding documentary. Thank you so much for uploading it!
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