This Crash is Why the Military Now Does Drug Testing
492K views · May 10, 2024 · Entertainment
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@galexj123 · 11 months ago
I was on The Nimitz that night working refueling station 3(starboard side of the ship). It was a helluva night. One of my division mates was killed(Dennis Driscoll) and several injured. We were young men who were training to protect our nation and preparing for major deployment. As much as I want to comment on the results found by others,the use of marijuana was not the cause of the crash. To all of my shipmates who lost their lives that night,continue to Rest In Peace
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@elliotw5918 · 2 years ago
Veteran and current pothead here: when dealing with millions of dollars of equipment, explosive devices, and the lives of the men and women to your right and left, getting high while in service just doesn't work out.
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@brentatbluenovaproductions2136 · 2 years ago (edited)
This was my dad's first cruise as a naval aviator. He once got drunk enough to tell me about running to the deck and trying to rescue a burned sailor and his hands went straight though his chest and that he didn't sleep for 3 days after. That day haunted him for over 30 years.
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@bbqchezit · 2 years ago
For those who just heard Greek when he said "11x the dose of Brompheniramine":<br>Brompheniramine is a 1st-Gen anti-histamine drug. Like Benadryl, it causes extreme sleepiness. An overdose with this drug would be extremely impairing, comparable to a very high alcohol level.
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@bobchronister3429 · 2 years ago
I was onboard that night. I was an AW with HS-9. I will never forget that night. We had to open the doors to the ready room because they set circle William and there was no ventilation. The main casualty route ran right in front of our ready room. I will never forget the sights or smells from that night of those carried down that passageway. <br>I remember walking around on the flight deck the next morning and seeing the carnage. After we airlifted the severely injured to Jax, the sip hauled a$$ back to Norfolk. The fire in the crotch was so hot it burned a hole through the flight deck. Master at arms were confiscating people’s cameras who ignored the order to NOT take any pictures on deck. When we got back to Norfolk, the phones at the end of the pier were hammered for hours and hours. The reporters were hounding anyone from the Nimitz for a story. There was a press conference in Hangar bay 2 I believe where Captain Batzler answered questions. As a young AW2 in my first squadron, it really shaped how I operated the rest of my 20 year career as an Aircrewman.
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@C.Y.123 · 2 years ago
Thank God that there's not a long-term test for alcohol. We wouldn't have a military
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@ericjane747 · 2 years ago (edited)
I went through EA6B training in the same graduating class with Steve. Marine pilots did not have to Carrier Qualify in the Prowler before graduation which was a HUGE mistake on leadership's part.I do not remember if they even did any FCLP. Going to the boat in the Prowler is critically important because you have to deal with an extreme roll angle of the lens to compensate for the very high Hook to Eye distance and the Rooster Tail among all the other factors you do not experience in FCLP. I remember saying farewell to him and asked him how he felt about not going to CQ when he was leaving Whidbey and I was going to the boat the next week. He was respectful of knowing what we would have to do to graduate. So IMHO, the mishap was due to 5 main factors. #1 Prowler Roll angle makes glideslope information useless unless you are on centerline which forces the pilot's scan to get fixated. #2 If I recall there was no centerline lighting as there is on runways, so he mistook the right threshold as centerline after fixating on trying to discern glideslope from LSO novercompensating the right for line up do to the angled deck. #3 NO CQ at Whidbey. #4 Command pressure to be a Hacker. #5 the excessive med dose which is tied to #4. RIP all that lost their lives that evening. I was on cruise on another ship at that time. Steve was a good and likeable person and a dedicated respectable Marine. Please remember him as trying to do his best for his country.
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@gtc1961 · 11 months ago (edited)
I was in the navy at that exact same time on Enterprise and Independence and I can attest that DRUG USE WAS RAMPANT..... It reflected exactly what was going on in the civilian population.
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@chrismaverick9828 · 2 years ago
The moral of the story goes beyond just the military: If peoples' lives depend on your mental state, don't be high, drunk, impaired, etc. This includes driving to the grocery store as much as tanking or landing an aircraft. A lapse of concentration, a few feet of drift to the left to cross the center-line, and you're driver to driver with a semi or van full of children.
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@chief0199 · 1 year ago
I fought this fire on the flight deck, I was working night shift in the print shop preparing for our port visit to Ft. Lauderdale. GQ was sounded and my station was repair 14 by the library just under the flight deck. I was one of the first to arrive after my locker leader. Since I was the assistant locker leader he told me to get my OBA and go out on deck and man our AFFF hose. The first thing I saw was the bow of the flight deck on fire and the body of the sailor who had been driving the yellow gear across the deck who was killed instantly. It was a very scary night. Thank you for this report.
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@CosmasNDamian · 2 years ago
As a flight surgeon myself, I would wonder if the mishap investigation found fault with the wing F/S who prescribed the brompheniramine to a DIACA officer without simultaneously issuing a grounding chit.
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