Protestant/Orthodox Dialogue: The Nature of the True Christian Church

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  @IconsofGod · 1 month ago · pinned

  In 2023, Ortlund called Eusebius: <br>&quot;The Father of Church History; [whose] knowledge of the Church in its early history is second to none&quot;<br><br>(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ytYX4dXpRo">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ytYX4dXpRo&amp;t=2168s)</a> @ <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94aMRL60Dls&amp;t=2230">37:10</a> - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94aMRL60Dls&amp;t=2238">37:18</a>.<br><br>Yet when Eusebius&apos;s succession lists are raised against his own ecclesiology, the tone suddenly shifts to &quot; [Eusebius] had some strange Christological views&quot; and &quot;we don&apos;t just have to accept everything he said&quot;.<br><br>You cannot treat a historian as an apex source (complete with honorifics) when it helps your case, and then add qualifications when Eusebius becomes inconvenient for you. <br><br>This is textbook special pleading.

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  @Eledan13 · 1 month ago

  I think these discussions need more structure and likely a moderator and a more focused scope. The benefit is lost by jumping from topic to topic without being able to fully explore it.

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  @dedysetiadi2851 · 1 month ago

  Should be Gavin and Fr talking only. Sorry Justin

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  @TheScriptures5691 · 1 month ago

  I love GAVIN .... masterful work sir @TruthUnites

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  @DavidTheSecond-nn6js · 1 month ago

  There should&apos;ve been a moderator to stop Gavin from being constantly interrupted

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  @ora_et_labora1095 · 2 weeks ago

  Ortlund seems like a Christlike brother! Thanks for showing me his channel. The hosts seemed very passive aggressive.

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  @Seraphim25A · 1 month ago

  Justin, all due respect you can’t interrupt a guest thus much and expect to have a productive exchange. God bless

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  @PeterDog25_gaming · 1 month ago

  So thankful that Gavin was able to speak with respect and grace, even when under fire over these issues. I have such a deep love for Christians and and grateful for these dialogues even when they get heated. We carry our beliefs so close to the heart it is hard to focus on raw logic when we are sincerely convinced of something. Enjoyed the conversation and reccomend that the Orthodox brothers continue listening to Protestant presenters. There are so many language and underlying differences that may only get untangled with long, gracious conversations.

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  @tonianichols572 · 13 days ago

  As a Protestant, I continue to see love and respect from the Orthodox side in these types of conversations. ❤

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• OF

  @OfAbram · 1 month ago

  I pray this will be an edifying conversation

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  @TheWaywithBrianDavila · 11 days ago

  Gavin&apos;s facial expressions are hilarious!

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  @_Solly13 · 1 month ago

  With respect, please let Fr. Jonathan lead the apologetic defense, Justin.

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