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Three Ways to Find the Lands!

1.1M views · Oct 10, 2021 · Education

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  • @joeyfren1748 · 4 years ago

    For the last 30 years I’ve used an empty case and superglue instead of Loctite

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  • @ErikCortina · 4 years ago (edited)

    My method is actually the last one that Travis showed. The one where you let the lands push bullet in. &nbsp;But it is neck tension dependent. I also put die wax in bullet ogive to prevent it from sticking in the lands. The method of seating bullet deeper and deeper until bolt closes is the Alex Wheeler method. &nbsp;As you said, there are a tons of ways to measure this. &nbsp;<br>Multiple ways to remove outer layer from feline. 😁

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  • @GetMeThere1 · 4 years ago

    Loctite method seems fine. You can then use a sharpie to write the length right on the case, and keep the whole thing as a reference forever. Ideal. Thanks for bringing this to us.

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  • @swagler85 · 2 years ago

    Regarding the locktite method. I always pop the primer out. This allows air to escape out of the back of the case when the bullet is seated in the lands. Stops loctite from seeping out of the case neck into the chamber of the rifle.

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  • @garyfrear4293 · 4 years ago

    When using the OAL gauge, try using this with the rifle in a vertical position. What this does by having the muzzle pointing upwards, you can lightly lift the bullet to the contact point and not jam the bullet into the lands. If your bullet is sticking into the lands, you really have no idea how deep that is going.

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  • @jmkhenka · 4 years ago

    ONE CRITICAL THING WITH THE LOCTITE.<br>you need to de-prime the brass! If not, the air inside the case will push out the loctite into the chamber.<br>dont ask me how i know this..

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  • @davidpayne3604 · 2 years ago

    I started reloading in the early 60’s before oal comparators, with all my knowledge coming from reloading books and magazines, totally absorbed into shooting and reloading. Early on, I started trying multiple methods, some discussed here, but I found that if you just took whatever bullet you were going to use, drop it down the bore and just tap it lightly to jam the lands, I took a wooden dowel, advanced down the muzzle till it touched the bullet, then make a mark on the dowel with a sharp pencil at muzzle, then push bullet out of the barrel with the dowel, remove bullet, close the bolt , push dowel till it is up against bolt face, then remove dowel. Measuring the distance with my trusty Craftsman dial caliper precisely gives me my max coal for that particular bullet. I would then and now, especially it seems with all Berger bullets, they do better with up to .080 of jump. This easy method has always worked for me. I would like to have one of those nice Delrin rods though. Would seem to be perfect to use for same method.

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  • @Econolinebus · 2 years ago

    Gavin, that&apos;s the first and best visual demonstration I&apos;ve seen on this subject. I really liked it, you guys. Maybe another video on where factory ammo is set and the difference of the precise measurement and effects of the differences on performance and barrel ?

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  • @donteeple6124 · 4 years ago

    I agree with Eriks method and have used it for some 40+ years, I do however use a modified version of that for super super exact loadings, What I do for those is I use my normal push back method and add to it by blackening the bullet with a sharpie or carbon black. I insert the test cartridge, close the bolt and note the land marks on the bullet after it has been pushed back. I then repeat 3 x and note the lengths....depending on the marks of the lands on the bullet will let u judge on whether or not your 3 bullets are seating on the lands consistently and with the same force. Always always always measure your length consistencies exactly like you showed in the video, using the apex of the bullet ogive. Beginning shooters might want to measure from the bullet tip but NEVER NEVER do it as tip profiles in the same batch of bullets can vary significantly, the ogive or slope profiles never changes at least in the same lot of bullets......Use a diffrent lot......start all over..... Just saying !!!!!!!

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  • @mxcollin95 · 4 years ago (edited)

    So cool to see a actual cutaway while you guys explain what’s going on. That definitely makes it clear what every little step on the print is for!

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  • @vtexcrsn · 4 years ago

    Great information for reloaders, even if we are not building a rifle or taking our reloading to that degree. Understanding this and seeing it really helps to understand how everything really works together for accuracy!

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  • @jeffjohn9898 · 10 months ago

    My reloading mentor taught me decades ago that the fun begins with finding the best combination of brass, bullet, powder type and charge. Bullet jump was the “fine tuner” for accuracy. Barrel resonance is different for every gun and once you find the magic combo, gratification begins.

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