1983 Stock: Why London Replaced These Trains After Just 14 Years

Comments · 76

• IH

  @iheardyoulikeme · 1 month ago

  I remember being 6/7 years old with my mum at Stanmore station and the train driver saw me getting a glimpse inside his cab as he finished his shift. He invited us in and ran me through all the controls. I was so excited and he had so much joy telling me how fun it was to operate the train.

  11

• TH

  @TheHoveHeretic · 1 month ago

  Very comprehensive analysis. &nbsp; I&apos;m a wee bit surprised it wasn&apos;t this stock, rather than the 1938 sets, which found their way to the Isle of Wight, when the last &quot;Standard Stock&quot; finally gave up the ghost. &nbsp;The single leaf doors wouldn&apos;t have been quite the issue with even maximum passenger flow at <b>Ryde Pier Head</b>

  43

• GA

  @gavmusic · 1 month ago

  Thanks for this informative video about the 1983 stock. I worked as a guard/emergency train driver on the Bakerloo and Jubilee lines at the time of the introduction of the &apos;83 stock. The trains had problems from the start - please allow for 40+ years of memory, but the trains had a flag system in the cabs that altered the power characteristics. There was a normal mode, express mode (or something similar) and a low-speed mode whose name I can&apos;t recall clearly. The trains should&apos;ve run in normal mode in the tube sections with short distances between stations and express mode when above ground. It was clear from the beginning that the trains were somewhat underpowered and finished up having to run in express mode all the time. I was guard on a train that had left Charing Cross after morning peak time and had stopped at Green Park. The train arrived at Bond Street and passengers alighted and boarded. I closed the doors and sent the bell signal to the driver when the pilot light indicated that all doors were successfully closed, further confirmed by the external indicator lights going out on the carriages. The train started to pull away but some door indicator lights came on even though the guard position pilot light was still on. I immediately pulled the train down (activated the emergency brake). It was decided to take the train out of service and head to Neasden to identify the problem, but the train now wouldn&apos;t move. It stayed put for a good 30 minutes. The train behind us had de-trained passengers in readiness to push our train from behind, which it did to Baker Street where our train started moving under its own power. The &apos;83 stock trains had black boxes fitted and after analysing the data it was concluded that an electronics fault had occurred, though it was very vague and uncertain regarding the exact nature of the problem. It comes as no surprise to me that these trains had a short service life. Aside from the rapidly changing requirements of a line that was at last becoming a fully-fledged, full-length line, the 1983 stock trains were bristling with good and clever ideas that somehow caused problems rather than bring solutions, along with some basic design flaws such as underpowered motors.

  4

• AD

  @adrianrutterford762 · 1 month ago

  Thanks for another interesting and informative post.

  5

• AD

  @adammars-thebveguy · 1 month ago

  No way, you’ve revisited the Underground!

  6

• AH

  @AHTransportLDN · 1 month ago

  The fact that this train would probably still be running if it didnt have problems is insane

  4

• EM

  @EM-yk1dw · 1 month ago

  Excellent documentary once again ❤

  1

• MU

  @mulletmanplayz · 1 month ago

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n2f4x02fSo&amp;t=993">16:33</a> That shot reminds me of Easey&apos;s Burger Joint in Melbourne, Australia, where three of our 1972 series train carriages (usually reffered to as Hitachi trains) were put on a roof. The Hitachi was built 1972 to 1981 however retired by 2014 as it was replaced by X&apos;Trapolis 100 and Siemens Nexas trains through the 2000&apos;s and early 2010&apos;s.

• FR

  @franciswaddy.DMS1515 · 1 month ago

  Very good. But also having mockup 3637 at west ashfield for training too

  1

• AF

  @AFCManUk · 1 month ago

  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n2f4x02fSo&amp;t=120">2:00</a> How the hell did Rajesh Koothrapalli from Big Bang Theory get there!?!?!

  1

• DD

  @ddgaming.23 · 1 month ago

  That Shoreditch place u can now dine in so it’s not only the 1967 stock that can be dined in

• LE

  @leeosborne3793 · 1 month ago

  A good comprehensive look at these trains. I always quite liked them, despite their problems, but yeah, they were definitely one of London&apos;s least successful trains. As the video highlights, things changed very quickly not long after they were built, and trying to inter-operate them with the 96 Stock would have been horrendously complicated.<br><br>It did have a lasting impact on the 96 Stock design, though - the cars are built to the same dimensions, the side windows are the same height and shape, and the cab fronts are quite similar.<br><br>I think the interior design dated very quickly indeed, and looked pretty awful by the time the second batch entered service!