I Don't Want Every Knitting Pattern To Be Size Inclusive.

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  @Zara.die.zauberin · 3 months ago

  Schematics are sometimes the most important part of a pattern. My arms are usually 2-3 sizes larger than my bust. Regardless of designer. With schematics I can see in advanced when I&apos;ll need to make adjustments, plus they give me the tools to support the math I need to do to make my own calcs. As many others have mentioned, understanding how to adjust patterns to your body is a skill all knitters should try to develop. <br><br>My designer recs are Rebecca Clow and Ysolda Teague. Both design size inclusive patterns with lots of fit mods. Both are also on YouTube, and Ysolda in particular has lots of tutorials and a blog I believe where she discusses techniques and fit.<br><br>&quot;Rectangles in all the shades of beige&quot; describes far too many of the popular designers right now imho, loved that 😂

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• CM

  @cmhmord3751 · 3 months ago

  I would love it if Ravelry would add filters like “must include this lower/upper size limit” or “only include patterns with schematics”, so crafters have a chance to winnow out patterns that aren’t suitable or as meticulously presented right from the start.

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  @Lemonlina · 3 months ago

  This is the best take I’ve seen on this topic. &nbsp;<br><br>I have a lot of sewing experience and while I’m finally knitting my first sweater, even as a very underweight person, it needs a lot of modifications. &nbsp;A person’s size is not just their weight, but all sorts of measurements, including lengths. &nbsp;It’s an important skill to have when you make your own clothing and I don’t think it’s appropriate to expect every designer, even the big ones, to have measurements for supposedly everyone when it’s impossible to account for every type of variability. &nbsp;My challenges are definitely not as extreme as someone who’s plus sized in this regard, but my body is definitely not the average either and mainstream fashion has never fit me correctly. &nbsp;<br><br>I think that the best patterns are the ones that have some basic instructions on where and when to modify something. &nbsp;If I ever designed something, I would include something like this so that everyone can find the size that best suits them and modify from there. <br><br>I also think that an important part of fashion is knowing what shapes look good with your body. &nbsp;No amount of modifications or size inclusively will make something look good if the design is not flattering on that specific person. &nbsp;<br><br>Anyway I love the thought you put into this video and I think you have a good understanding of what makes something well designed. &nbsp;You’re my favourite knitting channel and I love watching your vids every Saturday morning 💙

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• JG

  @JGal1995 · 3 months ago

  If your a big coorperation you should absolutely be size inclusive you can afford it. If you are a small business you cant

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• SC

  @schlurpie · 3 months ago

  learning to customize a pattern to fit your body is the best knitting skill one can have. it basically opens up all the available patterns out there.

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• TE

  @Tee_n_FerrisB · 3 months ago

  I appreciate this so much! Getting into knitting for my closet and my body has been extremely liberating. I don&apos;t think this is a controversial take but an extremely honest conversation. I have looked at designs and knew that regardless of the sizes graded it wasn&apos;t going to work without some major modifications for my body. Some designers do really great and truly go the distance for ALL bodies, some try and miss the mark (keep trying please), there are also those that don&apos;t bother and market to a very specific audience. &nbsp;I also want folks to remember NOT EVERYTHING IS FOR EVERYONE, even if it is technically in their size. We don&apos;t all like avocado toast, your fit &amp; fashion is the same🤷🏾‍♀️.

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• TH

  @TheRealMeli · 3 months ago (edited)

  I wish designers would give the height, bust, waist, and hip measurements of their models, along with the finished dimensions of the garment they&apos;re modeling. I&apos;ve seen this practice in some sewn clothing, but rarely in knitting patterns. It makes it a lot easier to visualize how the garment would look on a different body. ETA: I wish they would do this <b>in addition</b> to having models in the small and large ends of the grading range!<br><br>I&apos;d also argue that not all sweater styles will fit all people, regardless of grading. My mom isn&apos;t plus sized, but she carries her weight in her belly, so her waist measurement is larger than her bust. Hourglass shaping just physically won&apos;t work for her, no matter how the pattern is graded. When I knit for her, I either look for patterns that are A-line or swing, or I convert an hourglass or boxy pattern to one of these styles.

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• NO

  @nonyabidness-d4u · 3 months ago (edited)

  This is why I shy away from making sized patterns. All of mine just teach the user how to calculate everything based on their exact measurements. It&apos;s elementary level math, if an adult is capable of knitting, they&apos;re capable of doing the calculations. I thought people would be upset at needing to do math, but I&apos;ve gotten a lot of really positive feedback on it

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• BR

  @Brunneria · 3 months ago

  I hear you. &nbsp;I’ve been in a plus size body for 40 years. &nbsp;My personal solution is to VERY CAREFULLY select clothes and knitting patterns for style. &nbsp;I wear lagenlook clothes (loose layers, drape). &nbsp;I convert tiddly little knitted shawls to my size ponchos and wraps. &nbsp;I knitted 5 different tee patterns til i found one that works. &nbsp;Now I repeat that one each time. &nbsp;I found a fab jacket pattern (after several failures). &nbsp;It knits to inch measurements, not counted stitches. &nbsp;All you need is to knit a swatch and then later use it as a pocket. &nbsp;Once you know your no of stitches per inch you are off and running. &nbsp;It is called Out of the Box Sweater on Ravelry. &nbsp;You can also tweak it for length, arm width, shoulder, etc.

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• MI

  @millie-mayprice891 · 3 months ago

  A lot of people seem to want patterns to work for them just as is, but the reality is that as sewists/knitters etc we all need to learn how to alter things to fit us. I have broad shoulders and a long torso, I&apos;m constantly knitting extra rows and extra stitches and doing extra decreases etc. My feet are super long and super skinny, I have to buy extra sock yarn and increase the length of the heel flap sometimes to accommodate for that. When I buy sewing patterns I have to lengthen bodices and sleeves, shift bust darts down, sometimes add a little extra width in the upper back if it&apos;s very fitted and non stretch. I know that&apos;s a lot to ask of a beginner, but if we want our clothing to fit? Most of us need to learn to do pattern alterations. Like, when you look at old knitting/crochet patterns a lot of them legit came in ONE SIZE and you were expected to be able to alter it. And making some absolute duds is part of the learning experience, there aren&apos;t too many of us out there who aced our first sweater, I know mine was a bit of a disaster! <br><br>I don&apos;t wanna be that person who says &quot;just get good&quot;, but at some point you kinda do need to actually learn the skills of your craft to have a good outcome, because we ARE all different shapes. We could be the exact same height and weight and still not fit the same garments, there is literally not a pattern on earth that can accommodate for every shape and size. <br><br>One of my plus size friends is constantly bemoaning the fact that even though they do buy from plus size designers things still don&apos;t fit because they have a small bust, and all the plus size patterns assume the person has a proportionately bigger chest. A lot of people with bigger hips/butts/thighs know the drama of trying to find pants that they can actually get on, but that don&apos;t gape massively in the waist, or skirts that have enough fabric in the back that they don&apos;t end up with an uneven hemline. I used to have a male friend who did body building who had to have his pants HEAVILY tailored to fit over his jacked thighs but still fit his calves and hips. <br><br>And that&apos;s before you get into the awkwardness of the fact that some garment constructions that work just fine for very slim straight bodies need to be so heavily altered to fit a a very curvy or plus sized body that the garment you get at the end is basically not the same design at all. I&apos;ve seen people get mad about a bralette looking different or having an altered design in the bigger sizes and I&apos;m like... That tiny scrap of fabric and string they have on the itty bitty titty committee size two model is not going to work on a bigger body. It will not do the job it is meant to do. What are we really asking for, here? Being inclusive is one thing, jiggle physics is a whole other thing with its own requirements. <br><br>ALL THAT SAID- I do think bigger patterns makers should have a decent size range and instructions on how/where to do basic alterations like bust increases, lengthening, etc. They can afford it, they should do it, and they should do it well.

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  @liflynn8379 · 3 months ago

  Having studied fit and worked as a designer I would love to see more specialised clothing labels, pattern companies and knitwear designers. Specialised clothes designed for either petites OR tall people OR plus size OR bigger hipped people OR bigger busted people. I’m amazed it works at all tbh.

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  @linziharvey2518 · 3 months ago (edited)

  I am sure you will have a lot of people eventually find this and argue with you, but honestly, this is the smartest take on this I’ve seen. It was really thoughtful and well put together ❤

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